hunt and fish 35 Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 To be honest i wouldnt kill pike in any river but my we local river which is good we river for brown trout an end of season salmon and dollaghan some c**t put 100s of small pike into the river which has never had pike in it before i killed a lot of young pike this season as did every other person catching them as this is a trout river and a lot of work goes into it. Quote Link to post
ianh 83 Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 pike are an important part of any fishery killing them is very stupid. but i have had enough arguments with peiople locally about this, seems in south yorks all the thick as shit matchmen kill them all, cant stand the cnuts 2 Quote Link to post
hunt and fish 35 Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 pike are an important part of any fishery killing them is very stupid. but i have had enough arguments with peiople locally about this, seems in south yorks all the thick as shit matchmen kill them all, cant stand the cnuts Not when its a trout river and the fishing clubs are putting time and money for years into bringing up the salmon levels. Quote Link to post
poacher3161 1,766 Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 pike are an important part of any fishery killing them is very stupid. but i have had enough arguments with peiople locally about this, seems in south yorks all the thick as shit matchmen kill them all, cant stand the cnuts Me as well as most of them are that set in their ways and its the older generation mostly. Quote Link to post
ianh 83 Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 pike are an important part of any fishery killing them is very stupid. but i have had enough arguments with peiople locally about this, seems in south yorks all the thick as shit matchmen kill them all, cant stand the cnuts Not when its a trout river and the fishing clubs are putting time and money for years into bringing up the salmon levels. i can understand the need for control and its silly to add pike to a venue unless it needs some, but a few predators in your river will keep the sick and injured fish down, and keep your stock more healthy, every ecosystem needs predators. its very foolish to remove them all. it works in cycles too, if the predators get too numerous, stocks drop and then they eat each other (more than usual anyway)predator numbers go down, stocks rise again (of prey fish) and predators begin to increase again, works in cycles. i can understand in a small trout stream/river etc you wouldnt want to see many pike but in any reasonable sized river, and thats most salmon rivers to be fair, its very detrimental to remove them all. but as i said prevuious i have had this debate too many times to do again. enjoy your fishing! 3 Quote Link to post
hunt and fish 35 Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 pike are an important part of any fishery killing them is very stupid. but i have had enough arguments with peiople locally about this, seems in south yorks all the thick as shit matchmen kill them all, cant stand the cnuts Not when its a trout river and the fishing clubs are putting time and money for years into bringing up the salmon levels. i can understand the need for control and its silly to add pike to a venue unless it needs some, but a few predators in your river will keep the sick and injured fish down, and keep your stock more healthy, every ecosystem needs predators. its very foolish to remove them all. it works in cycles too, if the predators get too numerous, stocks drop and then they eat each other (more than usual anyway)predator numbers go down, stocks rise again (of prey fish) and predators begin to increase again, works in cycles. i can understand in a small trout stream/river etc you wouldnt want to see many pike but in any reasonable sized river, and thats most salmon rivers to be fair, its very detrimental to remove them all. but as i said prevuious i have had this debate too many times to do again. enjoy your fishing! Agree with what your saying mate i wouldnt dream of killing a pike in any of the other big rivers i fish but my we local rivers never had pike and the fishing clubs putting lots of young trout in every year and salmon parr and someones put in 100s of small pike around 2lb so these need to be controlled. Quote Link to post
ianh 83 Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 i can see that being a problem, why would anyone put that many small pike into a river? especially one someone controls so they cant fish it anyway. is there another way the fish could of got in there? floods from reservoirs lochs etc? Quote Link to post
hunt and fish 35 Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 i can see that being a problem, why would anyone put that many small pike into a river? especially one someone controls so they cant fish it anyway. is there another way the fish could of got in there? floods from reservoirs lochs etc? There are free parts mate and parts that are only club water. There only being caught in a few places and its 12 miles from the loch and they all just came suddenly and was low water so they have been put it by someone. Quote Link to post
MUDD 374 Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 pike are an important part of any fishery killing them is very stupid. but i have had enough arguments with peiople locally about this, seems in south yorks all the thick as shit matchmen kill them all, cant stand the cnuts Not when its a trout river and the fishing clubs are putting time and money for years into bringing up the salmon levels. i can understand the need for control and its silly to add pike to a venue unless it needs some, but a few predators in your river will keep the sick and injured fish down, and keep your stock more healthy, every ecosystem needs predators. its very foolish to remove them all. it works in cycles too, if the predators get too numerous, stocks drop and then they eat each other (more than usual anyway)predator numbers go down, stocks rise again (of prey fish) and predators begin to increase again, works in cycles. i can understand in a small trout stream/river etc you wouldnt want to see many pike but in any reasonable sized river, and thats most salmon rivers to be fair, its very detrimental to remove them all. but as i said prevuious i have had this debate too many times to do again. enjoy your fishing! Well said mate. Atb Quote Link to post
northern lad 2,292 Posted January 10, 2012 Report Share Posted January 10, 2012 i cant beleive this ignorance still exists,christ its like going back to the seventies "fling em up the bank"etc. 1 Quote Link to post
PeakOil 352 Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 I had hoped such idiotic mindsets had been consigned to the late 's and early 90's. I remember being grassed up by some stupid matchmen for putting a few jack pike back in one of our local lakes and not chucking them in the small river or nearby 'death pond' as a lot of other idiots did in those days. Todays jack pike might end up as a snack for one of the big girls, or be the next generation of big pike. Quote Link to post
Acuspell 329 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Pike will stabilise their population at 10% of the biomass of fish in the water. Pike regulate their own numbers, but by weight of biomass. If a water will support say 1000kgs of pike, that could be 1000x 1kg fish, or 100 x 10kg fish - the bigger the fish they less they eat, becaue they are only eating for maintenance, growing pike eat more because they need maintenance plus growth. Putting pike into a water that has not had them naturally is stupid and very damaging. Quote Link to post
the_stig 6,614 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 e mail fishing4fun see what they say -- he works for them .. like i said ------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to post
WILF 48,316 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 f**k me, if you get on this site and think there are some tools about then just treat yourself to a few hours walking round most day ticket fisheries!!!........angling is the worst field sport for idiots imho and thats saying something! Quote Link to post
Brimmer 220 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Has anybody read the reply underneath the first comment? Quote Link to post
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