WORKING HARES.

[squirreltail 15]

:thumbs-up:Anyone on the site got any pictures of coursfields Joe? or Snowy or Casper?.or Jack ,or Foxy.

it would be much apreciated.brilliant dogs but I havnt got pics.

Thinkin about a pup, but dont know whether to stick with straight saluki/grey.

[juckler123 707]

its usually the dogs with less speed that will learn to lay off and just keep em in the field a fast dog has no need to the dog i used for retrieving during the winter used this style during the daytime and he was beardiexgrew

 

Edited April 6, 2007 by juckler123

[Guest Frank]

Some usefull looking dogs their Juckler

 

Frank.

[inan 841]

Is this way of working the hare, only confined to Saluki crosses? Or do other good hare dog crosses have this quality too? Pre ban.

 

Cheers,

 

Frank.

Good question,my uncle had a collie cross just after the 2nd war that "fenced "hares,cutting them off from cover,but all the recent dogs that come to mind had a preponderance of Saluki blood in them,my own Dog out of Lucky is a good "goalkeeper",like his father, a dog that was known for this ,and threw it in some of his pups was January Jack,Joe the father of Lucky was another.

 

inan

I have saluki lurchers , mine dont box hares , more up and at them pushing them around , Iv seen a good few dogs out of courfeilds Joe and they all seem to have that style of running , do you think it is down to the Saluki blood in the make up of the lurcher that makes them do this , mine only do it when the hare is trying to get into cover , and then its not often , i have watched a dog out of Joe and foxy run this year and he boxes them in the middle of the field , do you no the saluki blood in Joes make up ,,cheers

I beleive it is the Saluki blood that influences this style of running,Gary ,the owner of Joe told me the dog was out of an imported Saluki from Iran,,with Ballyregan Bob,that great staying Greyhound on the other side,a coursing friend of mine,[before the ban],has a grandaughter of Joe and she fences very well,she is also mustard onlamped rabbits running cunning and keeping them from cover,my own dog is sometimes a bit too laid back when running,I sometimes feel if he closed the gap a little more he would dominate his quarry better,you mentioned Foxy,I have only seen this dog on video ,very impressive,CN matched Gary years ago Foxy against Joe,I beleive Foxy won,both exceptional dogs.One of the posters on this thread said the more hares you run,the more a dog will box his hares ,I havent found this to allways be the case ,some years ago I ran a fast 3/4 gx Sal, for several seasons he never boxed his game but luckils he turned very well for a fast dog,the style a dog runs may have some connection with the ground you regularly run on,if a dog is clever ,and runoften on "big land"it seems to realise it has time to take its game ,and just does enough to stay in distance ,lining up its prey ,waiting fot the optimum time to strike ,I find these dogs fascinating to watch,and love to see them.Lucky caught several hares on golf courses,the dog was clever enough to adapt to the ground and pressure its quarry.

[Guest Frank]

VERY interesting stuff inan.

 

Thanks for that input.

 

Frank.

[Guest Frank]

Found this interesting, below.

 

http://www.lurcher.fsnet.co.uk/page9.html

 

Frank.

[snoopdog 1,256]

just read that frank and he just kept repeating his self over and over just in different ways ...at the end of the day hes saying saluki x grey are the best for the job ...we knew that ..........he also said in around about way that best to best breeding doesnt always give you the best pup but it gives you a better chance of doing so .....the man talked in riddels ....and said what everbody already knows he just f****d about saying it ....imo.....i see it like this some dogs will go staight in and try and finnish the hare quick some will sit behind it waiting for the right moment and then strike ....it dosent really matter how they do it as long as they get the fecker ......its good to watch a clever dog sit behind a hare and box it away from cover ..it is also good to watch a dog that is up and at em and ends the course in quick fashion ....but the best kind of dog is the one that can do both......

[Guest Frank]

just read that frank and he just kept repeating his self over and over just in different ways ...at the end of the day hes saying saluki x grey are the best for the job ...we knew that ..........he also said in around about way that best to best breeding doesnt always give you the best pup but it gives you a better chance of doing so .....the man talked in riddels ....and said what everbody already knows he just f****d about saying it ....imo.....i see it like this some dogs will go staight in and try and finnish the hare quick some will sit behind it waiting for the right moment and then strike ....it dosent really matter how they do it as long as they get the fecker ......its good to watch a clever dog sit behind a hare and box it away from cover ..it is also good to watch a dog that is up and at em and ends the course in quick fashion ....but the best kind of dog is the one that can do both......

 

Sounds good to me, cheers Snoop.

 

Frank.

[Guest Top Chalker]

Inan the saluki blood in courfilds joe was "tepe gawra" litter sister to Brigawn , got this info of wor Miles cheers .

[Phil Lloyd 10,738]

Edited April 7, 2007 by CHALKWARREN

[whin 463]

got saluki crosses from difft types of saluks , and my fav collie crosses , tyne is no were thick , when were out walking we are a team ,when hes running qaurry on the beam hes on top of them , when hees daylight hunting big feilds he boxes them ,your out at night with him no lead free as a bird he knows the score no running in front of the beam steady until its time to pull them down ,him and the grew are very obeident and its not been my hard trainig its running sense and they like there master , were lana collie cross and her pup im am with them i train them but there no loyalty shes like part wolf i feed her but she does the rest , you could send her away, sheel catch bring back but only cause ive trained her to do that ,great hunter but wouldnt bother if i was there or not , shees her own dog, tyne the saluk im part of his team great loyal dog ,all the best, had a grandson of tepe gawra sniper jade many moons ago good dog very determined hunter courser ,

[brock 11]

only saluki type will box a hare,a collie x,will try and round its quarry and look like boxing,but the only dogs that box a hare is the saluki x,a bull x boxing a hare?ha dont make me laugh,it doesnt happen,it may look like its boxing it because its running outside the hare for three or four turns,but does it box it then after 2 mins?i doubt it

[whin 463]

never saw dogs a part from saluk crosses box hares in the middle of big feilds ,saw dogs run for 4 minutes on jack rabbits in new mexico killing jack rabbits but through speed and indurance ,most dogs ive saw when there diluted to a qaurter, saluk they start running them like a greyhound , killed hares localy with collie grews but more with speed fitness and indurance all the best

[Guest Frank]

Thanks folks. Keep it coming.

 

Frank.

[juckler123 707]

Inan i think your onto something with a dog knowing its got time to kill on big land