bizz 122 0 Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 i was given a 17 month old patterdale from a mate of mine about 3 months ago he bred it and a women just had it as a pet then got fed up with it i started taking him out after a week with a couple of working russels the first time just let him run with the russels and whenthey went to ground he didnt know what to doso wh ilethe dogs were settleing i just sat near a hole with him with the russels baying he was keen to see what was going on with abit of coaxing he went in abit of a time after about half hour he just kept nipping in and out which was a good sign when we dug charlie out he had a good rag after a few digs like this he was staying longer under ground then about a month ago we were just walking around some new permision and he was off his lead then we saw a earth at the edge of this little cops so we said we wood just check the rest of the copsof course my dog was gone we found him in the earth baying like mad so we dropped my mates patterdale in just to make sure they never got together she was baying about 6 foot away from mineso got shovels out and dug to my dog who was on a dog fox so drawn it with lurcher he was strait back in now they were both together only 2 foot so dug down there was the vixen was dead good feeling first find for my dog been bang on ever since got a patterdale x laky 7 month old now alway take him out on our digs comeing on well bit of a header carnt wait till hes working 100% aswell Quote Link to post
lonedigga 22 Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 (edited) .. Edited June 3, 2008 by lonedigga Quote Link to post
Lurcherboy 0 Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 good going mate and good on the wee dog . dont think im being a cu*t but do you always work two dogs to ground and have you ever had any problems ive heard horror stories and it put me off it i only ever work one dog at a time yis fraser Quote Link to post
jultaylor1972 2 Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 Im not quite sure if I understand your post? Im pleased your patterdale appears to be working well , but was there two to ground ? That might not be the best approach to use . Quote Link to post
Guest Dunna Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 I would NEVER class a dog as a worker unless it worked on its own Quote Link to post
Shamo 319 Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 i was given a 17 month old patterdale from a mate of mine about 3 months ago he bred it and a women just had it as a pet then got fed up with it i started taking him out after a week with a couple of working russels the first time just let him run with the russels and whenthey went to ground he didnt know what to doso whilethe dogs were settleing i just sat near a hole with him with the russels baying he was keen to see what was going on with abit of coaxing he went in abit of a time after about half hour he just kept nipping in and out which was a good sign when we dug charlie out he had a good rag after a few digs like this he was staying longer under ground then about a month ago we were just walking around some new permision and he was off his lead then we saw a earth at the edge of this little cops so we said we wood just check the rest of the copsof course my dog was gone we found him in the earth baying like mad so we dropped my mates patterdale in just to make sure they never got together she was baying about 6 foot away from mineso got shovels out and dug to my dog who was on a dog fox so drawn it with lurcher he was strait back in now they were both together only 2 foot so dug down there was the vixen was dead good feeling first find for my dog been bang on ever since got a patterdale x laky 7 month old now alway take him out on our digs comeing on well bit of a header carnt wait till hes working 100% aswell There is an old saying that says. "It is better to keep your Mouth shut and let people think you are an idiot, than to open your Mouth and confirm it" Quote Link to post
Ossie 11 Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 just read the post & the replies, so i'll have a crack at clearing this one up... (don't eat me for this! ) Can't believe what i just read!ever heard of single handed workers.3 dogs to ground!!!!!!!! doesn't say anywhere that 3 dogs were to ground. russells found the fox, 2 dogs went in on that particular dig, and Bizz has a new young'n who is taken along to other digs. probably to observe & get used to the sights & smells. dont think im being a cu*t but do you always work two dogs to ground and have you ever had any problems ive heard horror stories and it put me off it i only ever work one dog at a time Im not quite sure if I understand your post? Im pleased your patterdale appears to be working well , but was there two to ground ? That might not be the best approach to use . as i read it, the second, more experienced dog went in to give the inexperienced new one a hand & to make sure things didn't get messy. and the russells where there to find & mark charlie. please don't eat me. just clarifying, from what i read. might be horribly wrong, might not be. make what you will. Quote Link to post
elisderyn 496 Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 Well I just read about someone having three dogs to ground................ If the lad who posted is young & inexperienced then despite the fact that he has done wrong I can sort of understand ................ Hopefully he will take some advise & never use more than one dog at a time.......for a few reasons............1. Its f*****g dangerous for the dogs 2. If he's serious about earth work 2ing & 3ing terriers up will only lead to inferior dogs & possibly ruin potentially good workers............ On the other hand if he is someone who has had dogs a while then to do what he did & then come on here a post about it just shows hes a f*****g idiot.................. :whistle: Quote Link to post
bizz 122 0 Posted April 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 just read the post & the replies, so i'll have a crack at clearing this one up... (don't eat me for this! )Can't believe what i just read!ever heard of single handed workers.3 dogs to ground!!!!!!!! doesn't say anywhere that 3 dogs were to ground. russells found the fox, 2 dogs went in on that particular dig, and Bizz has a new young'n who is taken along to other digs. probably to observe & get used to the sights & smells. dont think im being a cu*t but do you always work two dogs to ground and have you ever had any problems ive heard horror stories and it put me off it i only ever work one dog at a time Im not quite sure if I understand your post? Im pleased your patterdale appears to be working well , but was there two to ground ? That might not be the best approach to use . as i read it, the second, more experienced dog went in to give the inexperienced new one a hand & to make sure things didn't get messy. and the russells where there to find & mark charlie. please don't eat me. just clarifying, from what i read. might be horribly wrong, might not be. make what you will. its fine mate your right only some people just read in between the lines he does now find and mark till he his dug out and we always use 2 dogs on big earths and never have any probs they work together fine if other people carnt get there terriers to work with each other it there prob Quote Link to post
bizz 122 0 Posted April 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 Well I just read about someone having three dogs to ground................ If the lad who posted is young & inexperienced then despite the fact that he has done wrong I can sort of understand ................ Hopefully he will take some advise & never use more than one dog at a time.......for a few reasons............1. Its f*****g dangerous for the dogs 2. If he's serious about earth work 2ing & 3ing terriers up will only lead to inferior dogs & possibly ruin potentially good workers............ On the other hand if he is someone who has had dogs a while then to do what he did & then come on here a post about it just shows hes a f*****g idiot.................. :whistle: read it properly and theres nothing inferior about our dogs they all do there job and do it well if there on there own or doubled up Quote Link to post
Lurcherboy 0 Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 surely your terrier will start relying on other dogs in the hole its no way to bring a dog on that mate round here its all scraped out rabbit holes hardly enough room for one dog never mind two you brought the dog on to go to ground dont ruin it by sending him in with another dog when you get a smaller den to work what you gonna do ?? Quote Link to post
Stabs 3 Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 one dog one hole.........everytime Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 bizz 122-What the lads are saying in their own sweet way is -ONLY ONE DOG TO GROUND YOU NOB! . .The youngster/inexsperienced terrier will learn more from single handed encounters than a lifetime of doubling up .Stronger quarry would have made you pay the price I feel .You will never know the strengths of individuals in a situation like yours and therefore will nearly always need to double up to get anywhere .If the pat' will work single handed then let it be the first of many for you .Good luck . Quote Link to post
bizz 122 0 Posted April 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 good going mate and good on the wee dog . dont think im being a cu*t but do you always work two dogs to ground and have you ever had any problems ive heard horror stories and it put me off it i only ever work one dog at a time yis fraser yes mate only on big earths though never had any probs at all just have to make sure your terriers get on together just if there is 2 in and they are both on in different places you have to dig twice witch we have done a few times some people dont agree but thats up to them everyone has there own ways Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 [quote name='bizz 122' .......................................make sure your terriers get on together just if there is 2 in and they are both on in different places you have to dig twice witch we have done a few times some people dont agree but thats up to them everyone has there own ways Confirmed -A nob of the highest order.Nobody will be buying a terrier off you matey Quote Link to post
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