Running dog 'cramps'

[Moll. 1,770]

it sounds like the dogs blood sugar level dropped low this can cause small and large fits and can sometimes result in a dog dying. ive seen dogs that can just stand still with all there muscles in spasm from lack of sugar.

 

the dog probably only had a mild attack and therefore managed to find enough goodness in its body to recover hence nothing showing in the tests at the vets.

 

you can buy some stuff from the chemist called hypostop for diabetics which you rub round the dogs gums in the event of it happening again.

 

Thanks for that Trigger, gave them a breakfast that morning cos i knew they would be going out for a long night....mackerel, raw eggs, milk.

[Moll. 1,770]

To help stop your dog cramping firstly feed a well balanced diet of say a base biscut either Australian Formular or Gain Record Breaker.

Add Meat , ie, Beef, Heart, Tripe,Chicken, Rabbit, ect, Veg, Pasta, Brown Bread.

Scrape Beef Dripping over food daily, Or add a knob of lard.

Potassium tablets or a chopped banana will also help with cramping.

Most of all make sure they are fit and warm them up with easy runs before testing them hard.

Thanks Max, i think he has a good varied diet, mainly tripe, but i do vary it.

He had been running over 2hrs before this happened, the only unusual thing just prior was that severe shower??

[trigger2 3,145]

it sounds like the dogs blood sugar level dropped low this can cause small and large fits and can sometimes result in a dog dying. ive seen dogs that can just stand still with all there muscles in spasm from lack of sugar.

 

the dog probably only had a mild attack and therefore managed to find enough goodness in its body to recover hence nothing showing in the tests at the vets.

 

you can buy some stuff from the chemist called hypostop for diabetics which you rub round the dogs gums in the event of it happening again.

 

Thanks for that Trigger, gave them a breakfast that morning cos i knew they would be going out for a long night....mackerel, raw eggs, milk.

ive always found its best give the dog a little to eat about 6 hours before going out and it seems to prevent any problems.

[whip x grey 276]

Would people be so kind as to describe any situations of cramp their dogs may have had.

Symptoms conditions etc.

 

One of mine had a funny turn last night and i am just trying to figure things out, other people experiences would be brill please

 

 

if yer dog is really well built ,,,ie mucsel back legs go dead,,,back toes curl,,,,,,its down to yer dogs mass in muscele and if fittness

 

easy oppion ,,,,give yer dog couple off spoonfulls off tinned tomatoes,,,each day ,,,and work on dogs fittness

 

if it presisests ,,,,see a greyhound man ,,,,there,s meds for this

 

either not 100%,,,,but might help ya out

 

So do you think the front toes would do the same, claws out?

 

moll ive only seen this in bag legs,,,going dead ,,,dog running loads and back musceles go dead,,,hence there there walking on there back toes curled up,,,,ive only seen this in the bully or heavey wide built whippet,,,usally they walk it off on lead after few mins

 

if it was front legs ,,,,i would be very worried,,,as---A there not holding much muscel mass and B i aways look at the front legs as the dogs steering rather than the dogs power,,,,which would concern me if i seen it in front toes or feet ect

[whin 463]

saw it happen to dogs that have no saluki in them and run hard when unfit ,mostly thre qaurter greyhound type or heavy bull type ,we gave them abit electoids was gator ade i gave it had some with us , what breed of dog is it what age

[Millet 4,497]

It might and a big might that might of been cramp on the night..but they is a underlying problem im sure and it will be fixed.. .

 

Moll know's her stuff with the dog's folk's and they are as fit as fook fed well on good stuff..

 

Where is the Trev of old when you need him.

[Moll. 1,770]

 

 

moll ive only seen this in bag legs,,,going dead ,,,dog running loads and back musceles go dead,,,hence there there walking on there back toes curled up,,,,ive only seen this in the bully or heavey wide built whippet,,,usally they walk it off on lead after few mins

 

if it was front legs ,,,,i would be very worried,,,as---A there not holding much muscel mass and B i aways look at the front legs as the dogs steering rather than the dogs power,,,,which would concern me if i seen it in front toes or feet ect

TBH i never noticed the back toes, noticed the front as his legs were out as if trying to steady himself, and the nails were out, digging down into the ground.

His is a bull x and i have been working on his fitness (too much perhaps?)....he could not walk though, and once he was in the shed could not stand up at all. After that i was away getting the car, Woodga (Bless his heart) had knocked at the farm house and got some towels to rub him down, when i returned it was still as if he could not see me, ear pricked when i called his name, but none of the normal waggy tailed recognition.

He has seen the bone man less than a week prior, he commented he was 'perfect' fitness (Muscle) wise.

[whin 463]

not a uncommon thing inbull crosses mates had a few they all had to be watched on big chases a sthye tried to hard and ran there self out shaking taking wobblys saw it in usa heavly muscled greyhound type they give them a syringe with electriods soom brings them back ,if he keeps doing it he has damages his self so you will have to be carefull how much he runs,

[mattydski 560]

Hope all goes well Moll.... fingers crossed its a one off

[Moll. 1,770]

saw it happen to dogs that have no saluki in them and run hard when unfit ,mostly thre qaurter greyhound type or heavy bull type ,we gave them abit electoids was gator ade i gave it had some with us , what breed of dog is it what age

He is a 1st gen, 1st cross bull, but not heavily built, he will be 3 in Feb.

[Moll. 1,770]

not a uncommon thing inbull crosses mates had a few they all had to be watched on big chases a sthye tried to hard and ran there self out shaking taking wobblys saw it in usa heavly muscled greyhound type they give them a syringe with electriods soom brings them back ,if he keeps doing it he has damages his self so you will have to be carefull how much he runs,

 

Whin, he has done much, much more than that night. No big chases, just a normal night lamping the bunnies?

[whin 463]

well i would put it down to fitness and weather had dogs with fine coats going funny on me while running them hard and on way home starting to take the shakes take him out again and just watch make up electroyes , weather and running can play havoc on bear skinned dogs ,saw som e while rabbiting wanting to curl up and hide whille im diggig out ,saw adog die after a dozen chases on rabbs as he didnt have abreather and was pure greyhound , took afit if we had electrose he would had survived , one of my best bitches ablack and white collie type if i went to usa and took her lampin after i came home took me two weeks to get her back to running good again ,i would say fittnes and advers weather conditions i was out myself last nite 11 till 3 30 dogs were fine but diffrent way bred ,

[Millet 4,497]

Been reading stuff on the respiratory system and a lot of sympton's pop up similar to his..did he do any coughing on the night with woodga..because he did on a long run a couple of week's back...

I cant get my head round what ive been reading to explain but look at page 56 in the big brown book..

[Moll. 1,770]

Running dogs need plenty fats in there diet for hard work.

Its a must, feed on aussie foemular or gain record.

add beef with plenty fat on

bit of veg and as some one has said a pre hunting meal 8-10 hours before going out.

Raw eggs , be careful , especialy with pups for samonella.

Boil a kettle , pour boiling water into large cup , crack in a couple of eggs, leave em for 2 mins then tip full contents of cup over bait.

Feed a half or small chopped banana with a little greyhound biscut and sardines w.ith maybe a knob of beef dripping strait off block for pre race meal.

White E , Teaspoon full over bait daily when in hard work.

Greyhound Electrolites will help.

Rugg up well and keep em well warm for 48 hours after a hard shift to stop acidosis or the screws.

Plenty FATS boys and girls.

I had him on quite high protein (Eukanuba performance 30%) but stopped that several months ago Max, replaced with lower levels 18-20%

Of late he gets mainly tripe minced with beef/oily fish/chicken. Lamb bones (Not daily) had Recharge mixed with his meal about 7hrs prior to work....the eggs are my own, from my own hens, but i will do as you suggested

He also gets tinned food occasionally, cooked food with wholegrain pasta.

I'll def look into getting some dripping, thank you for you imput

[Moll. 1,770]

Been reading stuff on the respiratory system and a lot of sympton's pop up similar to his..did he do any coughing on the night with woodga..because he did on a long run a couple of week's back...

I cant get my head round what ive been reading to explain but look at page 56 in the big brown book..

No, no coughing.

Nothing out of the ordinary apart from the weather