pet breeders and show dogs and hancocks

[whip x grey 276]

why do u think racers run like headless chickens?????

 

i race 5 month a year up in scotland,,,,,the rest off season ,,,i dont put them in cupboard lol thats just crazy lol,,,but i know what yer saying

 

was at mates this afternoon,,,,he said dont take it wrong way,,,,but yer black dog ran over rough ground ,,,most the year,,,hence i nearly decked him,,,thats why he never won a derby jacket lol

 

but alot off racers ,,,ill admitt wont let theres off the lead,,,,mine dont run like headless chickens,,,,,but there nose is crap

 

ive offered one off my mates,,,who is in too bigger rabbits,,,my dog if his dog doesnt see the full season,,,to run her,,,i wouldnt offer her if i didnt think he,ll get somthing out her,,for rest off season and she not schooled to race

 

dont get me wrong whin,,,,i dont have the best,,,ive been around dogs too long for that,,,and still know nothing,,,,,,but a handcock keeping up with a dog that doesnt like being last on the run up to quarry,,,u could have hit me with feather,,,,,p,s my dogs are still running and mooching,,,there dont run like headless chickens or they would have died along time ago,,,amazing thing racers,,,,hunt them 1st race them 2nd ,,,and presto there still here

[Rake aboot 4,936]

pet breeders and show dogs and hancocks u missed out racer !!!! lol

 

bloody things couldnt catch a hare in a phone box,,,,118 118 lol

 

only kidding lol

 

i think yer wrong with hancocks,,,,mates got a good un,,,and fast enough to take bigger bunnys and the rocket golfcourse ones and got a really good nose,,,,ive slipped my x yearling english derby winner 32lb with this dog,,,and the hancock he has was just as quick off the mark ,,,step for step,,,,maybe he was just lucky,,,,( i dont think he was ,,rough coated and has came into her own last couple off years) if yer happy then yer happy

 

i was gomsmacked when i seen his hancock matching mine stride for stride on that slip,,,but there ya go,,,,nothing is set in stone lol

 

Birddogs ?? nice dog that,, and he reckons it really does the biz

 

 

ye good to have speed have they inbred ability to take ther qaurry away from cover , or is it just running fast like a headless chicken were we hunt speed is a must but it has to know how to use its speed ,only the proper coursing dog types and some of the old collie type ive saw do that drop a shoulder bang games a good one ,an dif your out 2 3 4 times a week, feched feet on long runs as that arable stony stubble fech them do you fancy a run one nite as ille show you were im comin from bring the [bANNED TEXT] fast collie type to as there big fast animals to chase

 

Now your just making up any imaginary fault that you could apply to ANY dog,, loads of folk have great working dogs from non working stock,, whether you like it or not.

 

Some of them even train their dogs,, without any help from you !!!!!!! amazing really !

[whin 463]

yet to see a non worker win a feild trail coursing contest here america were ever ,ps bob had a racing grew bitch nice bitch bred exelent pups of her her brother beat greyhounds over 1200 yards she was clever but not clever to run the angles like a good saluk type she saw plenty work as i says i wuldnt mind seeing yours work as some nites seen them geting strait lined ,im goint to repeat the mating with good coursing saluk to grew im on the look out for another big grew bitch maybe in a years time very good dogs ,tell me about these gret dogs of non working stock as ill get rid of what i bred and buy one

[bunnys 1,228]

whin knows whar hes on about here fellas, he may not be the most gifted person with a pen no disrespect intended .but whins knowledge his got what i wpould call time served no book of knowledge like ther e his today the hunting life ,Any one can browse this site for a week or so and become quite knowledgable but that dont say they got the minerals , .IME afraid to say like most trades there has to be hands on with the game etc ,knowing your quarry game wher they are going to be certain times of the yr there his volumes that could be wrote about game etc ,those that have been and walked the walk can soon be picked out of thee basket ,AND YES WIN WOULD BE IN THE BASKET . he has a theory and i stand by this if i want a lurcher a lurcher his where it will be got from . CHARPS i am also with you on the the walshy books a man who knewhow to work and also breed a decent animal RIP ,HAS FOR DRABBLE I MET THIS OLD FELLA i happen to know the fellas who was supplying the badger cubs at five pounds a piece big money back then RIP SG BD ,ATB BUNNYS.

[whip x grey 276]

pet breeders and show dogs and hancocks u missed out racer !!!! lol

 

bloody things couldnt catch a hare in a phone box,,,,118 118 lol

 

only kidding lol

 

i think yer wrong with hancocks,,,,mates got a good un,,,and fast enough to take bigger bunnys and the rocket golfcourse ones and got a really good nose,,,,ive slipped my x yearling english derby winner 32lb with this dog,,,and the hancock he has was just as quick off the mark ,,,step for step,,,,maybe he was just lucky,,,,( i dont think he was ,,rough coated and has came into her own last couple off years) if yer happy then yer happy

 

i was gomsmacked when i seen his hancock matching mine stride for stride on that slip,,,but there ya go,,,,nothing is set in stone lol

 

Birddogs ?? nice dog that,, and he reckons it really does the biz

 

 

ye good to have speed have they inbred ability to take ther qaurry away from cover , or is it just running fast like a headless chicken were we hunt speed is a must but it has to know how to use its speed ,only the proper coursing dog types and some of the old collie type ive saw do that drop a shoulder bang games a good one ,an dif your out 2 3 4 times a week, feched feet on long runs as that arable stony stubble fech them do you fancy a run one nite as ille show you were im comin from bring the [bANNED TEXT] fast collie type to as there big fast animals to chase

 

Now your just making up any imaginary fault that you could apply to ANY dog,, loads of folk have great working dogs from non working stock,, whether you like it or not.

 

Some of them even train their dogs,, without any help from you !!!!!!! amazing really !

 

 

all folk have too rember is when it comes to dogs,,,,nothing is ever set in stone

 

i like whin ,,,rak aboot,,,,as he,s not afraid to say what he wants and neither are you,,,,which i think ,,,,makes u both good dog men as,,,,good dog men always arugue ,,,but lets not call it argue,,,call it having debates,,and got a passion for lurchers /running dogs ect ect

 

birddog says he met ya this year ,,,he speaks highly off you

[chartpolski 23,806]

whin knows whar hes on about here fellas, he may not be the most gifted person with a pen no disrespect intended .but whins knowledge his got what i wpould call time served no book of knowledge like ther e his today the hunting life ,Any one can browse this site for a week or so and become quite knowledgable but that dont say they got the minerals , .IME afraid to say like most trades there has to be hands on with the game etc ,knowing your quarry game wher they are going to be certain times of the yr there his volumes that could be wrote about game etc ,those that have been and walked the walk can soon be picked out of thee basket ,AND YES WIN WOULD BE IN THE BASKET . he has a theory and i stand by this if i want a lurcher a lurcher his where it will be got from . CHARPS i am also with you on the the walshy books a man who knewhow to work and also breed a decent animal RIP ,HAS FOR DRABBLE I MET THIS OLD FELLA i happen to know the fellas who was supplying the badger cubs at five pounds a piece big money back then RIP SG BD ,ATB BUNNYS.

 

I've got a 1st edition "Badgers at my Window", by Drabble. I would never sell it; it's amongst my collectiion of classic books, along with some of the great hunting, lurcher, whippet and greyhound books ! I also have some great books by the New Zealand bushman, Barry Crump; his "Good Keen Man" is the best hunting book I've ever read. Bob, my little Lurcher bitch, Delta, is a 23", rough coated, six year old, Beddy/Grey X Deer/Grey-Whippet/Grey, and still does times over 150 yards to handicap in at the Whippet track ! She's about 20 yards slower than the scratch dogs,but that's still faster than some of the Whippets !! LOL !! But for me, you can't beat the big Scratch Dogs !!

 

Cheers.

[whin 463]

bunnys youre a bit better than words than me but i stand by what you say youll never get thirty years of expiernce on the net ,not even one day ,max when have i says that my dogs are the best ,if i thought they were the best i wouldnt travel all over this country invite all sorts up to see better or not ,im into one thing only good dogs or probaly great dogs in some other mans eyes ,im not intrested in non workers show dogs racing dogs ,pet dogs , rescue dogs ,im ntrested in people who have evolved there dogs to be better and do the nessasary when out ,al these books that get wrote , fech nothing about weather times of nite law , no nitty gritty stuff like tides , for netting , something you can only learn if out all the time hunting fishing netting , there a massive deviod in the hunting game and nobody has filled it in last book i read and felt at home with was the great game as its an insite to other people how to go about it ,there not many real characters left who have gave most of there life for the game all the best guys

[bunnys 1,228]

cHARPS I HAVE IT AND ROGUE S AND RUNNUNG DOGS , whin in know where ya coming from and i am of the same svelt , striving to see and hopefully get better each and every generation of animal i keep I myself breathe the running dogs all types love the whipps so on ,my favourites alre like yours lurchers that can run deep winter and give a good account of themselves and know how to run what theyre running , what i would say to some and this his no disrepect to anyone , i can go forty yrs plus working all types along the waystill learning each and every day , but the are types that can be got and theres a million miles between them than the average to good collie cross where ever it comes from this his whrerwhere the experience can be seen experience of diff types and also lines of the same types can be totally diff styles of running , it can be diff to put ones self over when most are only half way down the road some of us have travelled. BUT what we all have in common his the love of hunting whatever ya game its something theres no getting out of copulsive obbsession to hunt with our hounds wether with permis or with out Iaint fussy depends where they are feeding given time of the yr.atb folks bunnys.

[birddog 1,354]

agree theres nothing set in stone, in fighting theres ALWAYS someone harder, in racing theres ALWAYS someone faster. Speed isn't the be all and end all, i've seen enough spaniels and collies catch hares to prove that. I've said it before genuine worker to worker isn't always possible. How many bull crosses come from bull terriers that can throw a bull? How many saluki crosses have parents that have run down gazelle after a mega course? Or deerhound crosses that come from dogs that bring a 10 or12 stone stag to bay? Why can't folk work with what they have and get the best out of it, through practise and experience ? A good dogman can make a decent worker out of what many would call poorly bred, inferior types, does breeding from these decent workers mean you have a good chance of getting a good worker? in racing and competetive coursing the same owners seem to crop up with generation after generation of top quality animals is that just because their lucky picking pups or is it their knowledge and ability that wins?

[Country Joe 1,411]

threqaurter greyhound up as the ultimate dog on hares back in the eighties then when they were not that good.

Whin the collie x grey and the Threequarter were used a lot in my neck of the woods, one of best Hare catchers i saw in south West Scotland was a threequarter bitch, she was sold to Travellers for good money, this was years ago, and none of the collie crosses were Hancocks.

[whip x grey 276]

good post birddog,,,,bloody hell lol u dont hold back lol,,,,,mind tell yer son back end off season ,,,match is on deerhound x greyhound ,,,matches 3/8 whip x 5/8 grey ,,match lol and who ever wins it dont matter as it doesnt at the end off the day

 

 

sorry i had to break the news to you on the hardbloods future in scotland,,,,,but unfurtuntly,,,,,the old guys are looking as there retiring after 20/40 years,,,and it looks in OUR LIFE TIME hardbloods will be a thing off the past north off ediburgh,,,,,i think and i only say think as eastaryshire club races alot in england will keep going

 

p,s guy not saying kirkcaldy is folded,,,,its a club thats cash rich,,,,but plls get older and young ones dont want dogs ,they want xboxes,,,,it will be a sad day in scotland when it happens,,,but i aint stupid,,,it will happen in my life time,,,,sad day for scotland,,,,,some off the finest whip/greys came from the hardblood breeding program

[birddog 1,354]

good post birddog,,,,bloody hell lol u dont hold back lol,,,,,mind tell yer son back end off season ,,,match is on deerhound x greyhound ,,,matches 3/8 whip x 5/8 grey ,,match lol and who ever wins it dont matter as it doesnt at the end off the day

 

 

sorry i had to break the news to you on the hardbloods future in scotland,,,,,but unfurtuntly,,,,,the old guys are looking as there retiring after 20/40 years,,,and it looks in OUR LIFE TIME hardbloods will be a thing off the past north off ediburgh,,,,,i think and i only say think as eastaryshire club races alot in england will keep going

 

p,s guy not saying kirkcaldy is folded,,,,its a club thats cash rich,,,,but plls get older and young ones dont want dogs ,they want xboxes,,,,it will be a sad day in scotland when it happens,,,but i aint stupid,,,it will happen in my life time,,,,sad day for scotland,,,,,some off the finest whip/greys came from the hardblood breeding program

 

maybe a litter bred from your brothers bitch with the pups given scottish homes would keep another 6 or 8 racers interested. and to get back on thread with you having a working / racing dog from non working parents and paddys sired god knows how many lurchers does his background and breeding make his pups any better or worse?

[Rake aboot 4,936]

pet breeders and show dogs and hancocks u missed out racer !!!! lol

 

bloody things couldnt catch a hare in a phone box,,,,118 118 lol

 

only kidding lol

 

i think yer wrong with hancocks,,,,mates got a good un,,,and fast enough to take bigger bunnys and the rocket golfcourse ones and got a really good nose,,,,ive slipped my x yearling english derby winner 32lb with this dog,,,and the hancock he has was just as quick off the mark ,,,step for step,,,,maybe he was just lucky,,,,( i dont think he was ,,rough coated and has came into her own last couple off years) if yer happy then yer happy

 

i was gomsmacked when i seen his hancock matching mine stride for stride on that slip,,,but there ya go,,,,nothing is set in stone lol

 

Birddogs ?? nice dog that,, and he reckons it really does the biz

 

 

ye good to have speed have they inbred ability to take ther qaurry away from cover , or is it just running fast like a headless chicken were we hunt speed is a must but it has to know how to use its speed ,only the proper coursing dog types and some of the old collie type ive saw do that drop a shoulder bang games a good one ,an dif your out 2 3 4 times a week, feched feet on long runs as that arable stony stubble fech them do you fancy a run one nite as ille show you were im comin from bring the [bANNED TEXT] fast collie type to as there big fast animals to chase

 

Now your just making up any imaginary fault that you could apply to ANY dog,, loads of folk have great working dogs from non working stock,, whether you like it or not.

 

Some of them even train their dogs,, without any help from you !!!!!!! amazing really !

 

 

all folk have too rember is when it comes to dogs,,,,nothing is ever set in stone

 

i like whin ,,,rak aboot,,,,as he,s not afraid to say what he wants and neither are you,,,,which i think ,,,,makes u both good dog men as,,,,good dog men always arugue ,,,but lets not call it argue,,,call it having debates,,and got a passion for lurchers /running dogs ect ect

 

birddog says he met ya this year ,,,he speaks highly off you

 

Cheers bud he speaks pretty highly of you as well, and after watching yer wee black dug at Glamis last year I ken why

 

Don`t read to much into me and Whin argueing,, we just carry it on over a cuppa, then he winds me up on here again,, then we carry it on over a cuppa ad infinitum

[whin 463]

to true bunny but what i must say i rate a man with the stamp of dog he keeps and breeds if they run shit then they must be hapy with shit if they give a good account well they must be putting the [bANNED TEXT] time into them , the dog game finds frauds as when there running a lot the good come through and the rest well never make it to the tiolet as they say ,saw hundreds of dogs running but only a few stick out just the way it is ,it costs as much to feed a good one than a bad one

[chartpolski 23,806]

good post birddog,,,,bloody hell lol u dont hold back lol,,,,,mind tell yer son back end off season ,,,match is on deerhound x greyhound ,,,matches 3/8 whip x 5/8 grey ,,match lol and who ever wins it dont matter as it doesnt at the end off the day

 

 

sorry i had to break the news to you on the hardbloods future in scotland,,,,,but unfurtuntly,,,,,the old guys are looking as there retiring after 20/40 years,,,and it looks in OUR LIFE TIME hardbloods will be a thing off the past north off ediburgh,,,,,i think and i only say think as eastaryshire club races alot in england will keep going

 

p,s guy not saying kirkcaldy is folded,,,,its a club thats cash rich,,,,but plls get older and young ones dont want dogs ,they want xboxes,,,,it will be a sad day in scotland when it happens,,,but i aint stupid,,,it will happen in my life time,,,,sad day for scotland,,,,,some off the finest whip/greys came from the hardblood breeding program

 

Bob, I was racing Non-Peds in the 60's & 70's, and still go along to watch now; but your'e right, and it's not just in Scotland.... to see handicaps here in the North East of England with only 6 to 12 dogs is a shame. In the old days it was a magnificent acheivment to win a R.Ch, there was that many dogs ! But now, it's fair to say some get their R.Ch's on a bye !! I ran at the Rising Sun in The British Open Championship, and there would be well over 100 dogs; running a heat, quarter final , semi final and final to get amongst the winners, but at Cambois Open a few days ago, some classes were empty, others only had one dog !! Whats the answer ? I don't know... you're right, the young'uns aren't interested, and even for people like me,it's a "Catch 22"; I'd have a Non-Ped Racer if there was more places to race.... but if no one gets into it, it will only get worse !! It will be a shame if Whippet Racing dies out, as they have a lot to add to Lurcher breeding.

 

Cheers.