huffhuff 1 Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 (edited) Hi guys, I spend lots of my time outside shooting, paragliding or doing a bit of bushcraft. So, I just wanted to tell you about some new layers I've bought for an upcoming shooting trip to subzero Croatia. I've tried all sorts of synthetic base layers in the past and now have a drawer full of smelly clothes (maybe that says more about my levels of personal hygiene or how bad at washing SWMBO is) None compare to the warm, soft touch of merino wool. So, if any of you are looking for something to keep you warm over the winter then merino is the way to go (forget the fully synthetic stuff). There are lots of companies selling (or claiming to) merino wool. But as with everything, manufacturing is moving over to China to keep costs down blah blah blah. Generally, this then affects quality. If you have an eco-conscience, there are companies out there selling 100% merino wool, made 100% in New Zealand. The costs are competitive but genuine merino is a bit more expensive! I spent yesterday morning in a ditch duck shooting with just a jumper and fleece over the merino - I was warm and snug. We then went straight to a pheasant shoot for some beating. 6 hours standing in a field, trawling through cover and woods... still toasty. However, my feet turned to ice (so I just ordered some of thick merino socks). The above obviously fits into the whole '3 layers' system. You wear a base layer for wicking, then a mid layer for insulation...and the final layer for protection. As an example; Layer 1: Thin merino wool (or synthetic) layer - top and bottoms. This fits snug to the body and 'wicks' away any moisture buildup to the mid layer. Layer 2: Warm jumper and trousers (can be more than one). This is what keep you warm by trapping the hot air between your body and the base layer. Layer 3: The outer layer (or shell) protects you from the external elements. Ideally, it should also be breathable so that the moisture can escape (wicked from base). Remember: If you are going to do something arduos and are likely to sweat, it's best you remove a layer. When you stop and start to cool down, add that layer back. Edited November 29, 2011 by huffhuff Quote Link to post
Crossfire 0 Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 Hi, they are not that cheap, there are many available in the UK cheaper, thanks for the post though. Quote Link to post
iworkwhippets 12,524 Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 Cant beat, tried and tested Gabby Hayes type longjohns, not that i wear em, they are fer owd timers Quote Link to post
huffhuff 1 Posted November 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Hi, they are not that cheap, there are many available in the UK cheaper, thanks for the post though. Hiya, Sounds like a sales pitch I know, but that isn't the case. I was trying to make people aware of the benefits of merino over synthetic base layers - that's all. There may well be some cheaper in the UK, but they will either not be genuine NZ merino, they will be packed with synthetics and can almost guarantee manufactured with no social or environmental conscience What brands did you have in mind? I fully appreciate some people don't give a monkies how there kit was made or where it even comes from...as long as it's cheap. But ultimately, you get what you pay for. Horses for courses Quote Link to post
bunnybasher69 56 Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Hi, they are not that cheap, there are many available in the UK cheaper, thanks for the post though. Hiya, Sounds like a sales pitch I know, but that isn't the case. I was trying to make people aware of the benefits of merino over synthetic base layers - that's all. There may well be some cheaper in the UK, but they will either not be genuine NZ merino, they will be packed with synthetics and can almost guarantee manufactured with no social or environmental conscience What brands did you have in mind? I fully appreciate some people don't give a monkies how there kit was made or where it even comes from...as long as it's cheap. But ultimately, you get what you pay for. Horses for courses You can do like the rest of the advertisers do and by ad space It stands out well and you don't have to keep bumping it for people to see it 1 Quote Link to post
mackem 26,264 Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 drawer full of smelly clothes, hellie hansen...........berghaus...........north face Totally disagree with this and I notice you didnt name these brands in the same sales-pitch on that site I have HH,Berghaus,and North Face base-layers,jackets and trousers,also got a merino wool jumper,not one item is whiffy and your warm as toasted-bread in some of the gear 2 Quote Link to post
huffhuff 1 Posted November 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 drawer full of smelly clothes, hellie hansen...........berghaus...........north face Totally disagree with this and I notice you didnt name these brands in the same sales-pitch on that site I have HH,Berghaus,and North Face base-layers,jackets and trousers,also got a merino wool jumper,not one item is whiffy and your warm as toasted-bread in some of the gear Well come smell my drawers Each and every one of my fully synthetic layers smells within about 1/2 hour of putting it on. Google it - I am not the only one! You can do like the rest of the advertisers do and by ad space It stands out well and you don't have to keep bumping it for people to see it I have no connection to chocolate fish other than being a happy customer. I am not selling anything so why would I buy advertising space? I thought that's what this place was about? Sharing your experiences with others. Obviously not. I will take out all references to any manufacturer so to be impartial Quote Link to post
mackem 26,264 Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Well come smell my drawers Thanks for the offer,but I am in a relationship Google it - I am not the only one! I dont have to google,I have HH and Berghaus kit,no complaints and all are fine. 1 Quote Link to post
huffhuff 1 Posted November 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Well come smell my drawers Thanks for the offer,but I am in a relationship Google it - I am not the only one! I dont have to google,I have HH and Berghaus kit,no complaints and all are fine. Fair enough, everybody is different I guess. But, synthetic/poly layers will smell more than wool. Fact. Have a good evening Quote Link to post
reddawn 2,173 Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 iv used helly hanson, north face an berghuas base layers for years, an never once felt they were not doing the job, an as for the smell, get the wife to wash your clothes more often ffs 1 Quote Link to post
bunnybasher69 56 Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 drawer full of smelly clothes, hellie hansen...........berghaus...........north face Totally disagree with this and I notice you didnt name these brands in the same sales-pitch on that site I have HH,Berghaus,and North Face base-layers,jackets and trousers,also got a merino wool jumper,not one item is whiffy and your warm as toasted-bread in some of the gear Well come smell my drawers Each and every one of my fully synthetic layers smells within about 1/2 hour of putting it on. Google it - I am not the only one! You can do like the rest of the advertisers do and by ad space It stands out well and you don't have to keep bumping it for people to see it I have no connection to chocolate fish other than being a happy customer. I am not selling anything so why would I buy advertising space? I thought that's what this place was about? Sharing your experiences with others. Obviously not. I will take out all references to any manufacturer so to be impartial The link you gave was to the shop in your signature, you must be a very happy customer Quote Link to post
huffhuff 1 Posted November 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 drawer full of smelly clothes, hellie hansen...........berghaus...........north face Totally disagree with this and I notice you didnt name these brands in the same sales-pitch on that site I have HH,Berghaus,and North Face base-layers,jackets and trousers,also got a merino wool jumper,not one item is whiffy and your warm as toasted-bread in some of the gear Well come smell my drawers Each and every one of my fully synthetic layers smells within about 1/2 hour of putting it on. Google it - I am not the only one! You can do like the rest of the advertisers do and by ad space It stands out well and you don't have to keep bumping it for people to see it I have no connection to chocolate fish other than being a happy customer. I am not selling anything so why would I buy advertising space? I thought that's what this place was about? Sharing your experiences with others. Obviously not. I will take out all references to any manufacturer so to be impartial The link you gave was to the shop in your signature, you must be a very happy customer No, the link was actually to a review on my personal blog. I do not sell anything, neither do I have a shop. Although to be fair, there was a link to the company in the blog (understandably). But whatever. I won't bother again so don't worry Quote Link to post
bunnybasher69 56 Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 No worries mate, how much do you make from people following the links Quote Link to post
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