Sirius 1,391 Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 (edited) Nice cross and very nice looking, but do people really have a use for dogs 28" - 30+" anymore? They are not for me as the take half a county to turn and there size lets them down on the land I hunt. I have ran a pure deerhound at game when legal and cant say I was impressed, good sport but not bag fillers. Maybe a bred down type would be best dogs throwing around 25" Edited November 28, 2011 by Sirius Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 sirus decent post with honesty and not blind ness we had the derhound type in eighties bitches 25 26 dogs 26 27 good alround animals but not saw any for years like that Quote Link to post
chartpolski 23,607 Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 I suppose it's down to what you need. I have a 23" bitch that is a decent all rounder, but was a bit small in some situations; so I brought in 1st cross Deer/Grey pup. She is now 29" and doing exactly what I wanted from her. Cheers. 1 Quote Link to post
Sirius 1,391 Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 sirus decent post with honesty and not blind ness we had the derhound type in eighties bitches 25 26 dogs 26 27 good alround animals but not saw any for years like that I honesty think that a bred down Deerhound/Greyhound is without doubt a good dog and ideally a dash of collie would do some good also IMO ;-) But these big horses of dogs are IMO just way to big to be useful on the land I hunt (small fields) 25-30 years ago you couldnt find dogs not of this type of breeding at the lurcher shows...lol 1 Quote Link to post
rocky1 942 Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 good x if both parents work Quote Link to post
Romany 1,065 Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 Worked 2 in my life time and had a lot of fun with them, both were ok as all rounders Quote Link to post
the big chief 3,099 Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 (edited) how olds your dog now then? he is 16 months mate the blue one was a rate dog and the brindle one is his nephue Edited November 28, 2011 by the gafer 1 Quote Link to post
chartpolski 23,607 Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 good x if both parents work Does that mean it's a bad cross if the parents didn't work ?? LOL !! I agree it's probably best if the parents were workers, but my bitches Deerhound sire never worked, (although he WAS from working stock); and her Greyhound dam, never worked or even raced !! ( She was a brood bitch and very well bred). Would my bitch be a better worker if her parents had been workers ? She does everything I want and I doubt she would be much better if she was out of workers, Cheers. 1 Quote Link to post
rocky1 942 Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 good x if both parents work Does that mean it's a bad cross if the parents didn't work ?? LOL !! I agree it's probably best if the parents were workers, but my bitches Deerhound sire never worked, (although he WAS from working stock); and her Greyhound dam, never worked or even raced !! ( She was a brood bitch and very well bred). Would my bitch be a better worker if her parents had been workers ? She does everything I want and I doubt she would be much better if she was out of workers, Cheers. deffo not a bad x a run deerhound x not first x but lurchers with deerhound in the mix ,i know and you know that most 1st x parent will not have seen any work ,but like you said he was from working stock and he doing the job for you , Quote Link to post
bunnys 1,228 Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 a pal of mine had the grew f1 deerhound this bitch was very capable 30yrs back now ardinkglass bitch 18 pound bred down grew ,atb bunnys. Quote Link to post
chartpolski 23,607 Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 I've got another Deer type bitch, that was bred out of two workers, and both her and the bitch out of non-workers were brought up and entered the same way, and I would defy anyone who didn't know them to tell which was bred from workers and which wasn't. Of course it's probably better to use working parents...but how much better ? Cheers. Quote Link to post
chartpolski 23,607 Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 a pal of mine had the grew f1 deerhound this bitch was very capable 30yrs back now ardinkglass bitch 18 pound bred down grew ,atb bunnys. If it was Grew, (Whippet/Greyhound), X Deerhound, it wasn't an F1. Cheers. Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 you want hare dogs you by of proven hare dogs and breed acordinaly , you race dogs you by of tried and tested dogs or winners , same with anything, we havent the land here to test proper deerhounds as they were, the yanks have it down to a tee the way they have there staghounds ,good worker to good worker it works for them saw plenty of decent ones take coyote some take jack rabbits butt hey are bred of generaition of running dogs not just deerhound to greyhound to me thats not the way forward thats just the start to get well bred dogs you have to mix things in the pot to get the best of the dogs,it would be along haul to get the old deerhound type back to were they were at in the eighties or on par with good coursing bred dogs, Quote Link to post
bunnys 1,228 Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 hi there charps the bitch in question to us qualified has the term f1 whipp deerhound , the sire was in the breed standard and was for seveal generations .YES HE HAD GREY IN HIS MAKE UPbut that was in the back of his ped .now i do not perceive to neneed a kc to be a breed type its because of this way of thinking that some breeds are in trouble .lets see kc whipps i believe the bottomley brothers took inferior none kc stock to be absorbed in to whipps which went on to become coursing stock . the kc and the non ped have in some cases ancestorial ssimilarities . now the deerhound do they not carry beardie blood in the make up and in some cases wolfhound , I was allways led to believe this his how we became and got the dinosaurs in the breed cow hocked etc , breed type becomes distorted and can be if one becomes sidestepped with purity of blood ,I know you also have a love for the whipp charps but i do not le myself and judgement be cloude a whipps a whipp a greys a grey agrews a grew , i find nature fascinating because when get them all in the same nest all the best charps my to peneth no punt intended atb bunnys Quote Link to post
Romany 1,065 Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 Bunny any chance your related to whin 2 Quote Link to post
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