James Doyle 59 Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 (edited) wwwwwwwwww Edited November 28, 2011 by James Doyle Quote Link to post
hunt and fish 35 Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 Can someone explain "unnecessary suffering" ? Quote Link to post
brog 670 Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 Can someone explain "unnecessary suffering" ? if your dog gets bit and swells and you dont see a vet to get treated Quote Link to post
brog 670 Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 good enough for them do you no them and there scum or do you think its good that someone got nicked Quote Link to post
unlacedgecko 1,466 Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 If you are after a legal definition I pulled this off the internet; The words “wantonly or unreasonably” do not appear in the other offences of cruelty. In the 1993 cases of Hall v. RSPCA and RSPCA v. Isaacs, which were decided on consecutive days, the Divisional Court held that, based on a close reading of the wording of the second limb of section 1(1)(a), an offence under that limb is committed only where the suffering of an animal: (a) was unnecessary, in the sense of its not being inevitable despite proper husbandry, and ( resulted from the unreasonable acts or omissions of the defendant. In real terms, it means what ever RSPCA can convince the magistrates/judge it means. There are numerous cases cited on the Self Help Group webiste (www.the-shg.org) where a terrier received excellent medical care from its owner. It was stated in court (and admitted by the RSPCA's own witnesses) that the animal would not have received any better care from a vet. However, the prosecution still suceeded on the basis that the animal was not taken to a vet. If you have a child and that child sustains an injury which is within your ability to treat (grazed knee for example) would you still take the child to the doctor? Of course not. But the RSPCA expect a dog (or other animal) to see a vet for any injury, no matter how minor. And they are prepared to expend millions of pounds every year attempting to prosecute those who disagree with them. Quote Link to post
stop.end 4,079 Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 what you mean good enough for them??? do you know what there getting charged for ......or is it quite possible its just another rspca officer thinking he knows best 3 Quote Link to post
scent 509 Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 good enough for them how the hell can you say that about fellow dog men,out of all the stupid comments iv seen you written that tops it off .Would you say the same if that were me or the lads i hunt with and you know them ,i think not 6 Quote Link to post
kevin em 342 Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 good enough for them what a dumb fooker you are to say that 4 Quote Link to post
danny300 2,240 Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 on the utv news website there showing a pic of a bull terrier beside the story Quote Link to post
hogie 103 Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 something needs to be done about these charity do goodun c**ts ruining peoples sport and there worse than the people they take these dogs of seen people getting there dogs back with bed sore's stink of piss and skin and bone Quote Link to post
scent 509 Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 on the utv news website there showing a pic of a bull terrier beside the story well i tell ye if thats a dog that been mis treated i give up ,looks better fed and in better nick then i am lol 2 Quote Link to post
taz2010 1,297 Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 feck me are you all dog men or what these lads could have had there dogs out the day before they were caught,and i as a terrier man have had some smashed up dogs in my time and im sure if they visited me the day after some of these outings id worry but thats terrier work so dont judge the lads till ya know the full story and im sure 99% of true terrier men would feel the same as me about this 3 Quote Link to post
Waz 4,254 Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 Can someone explain "unnecessary suffering" ? Maybe something like this.. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/devon/3593318.stm Quote Link to post
scent 509 Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 Can someone explain "unnecessary suffering" ? Maybe something like this.. http://news.bbc.co.u...von/3593318.stm im lost i cant see any explaination of unnecessary ssuffering there Quote Link to post
CO CHISE 329 Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 Can someone explain "unnecessary suffering" ? Maybe something like this.. http://news.bbc.co.u...von/3593318.stm im lost i cant see any explaination of unnecessary ssuffering there ?? Quote Link to post
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