Pig dogs

[j1985 1,984]

Why old southern White Billy ? Plenty other lines of AB harder/better than the usually made up fictional OSW which are usually just AB's anyway.

 

I agree that a bull grey x (performance/standard) AB would probably be a good pig dog depending of the dogs used.

[Ideation 8,216]

There is a lot of guess work in this thread.

 

Look closer to home, i'm sure there is someone who has had similar ideas to you, and has worked something out.

 

With regard to bull x whips - from what i know, yes they are 'game' (if thats the term you wish to use), well, they will kill a fox anyway, and are tough little b*****ds, they have decent noses, only the failed ones bark / yap while on game, and it's usually pit type bulls used. They don't have the toughest skin, and can tear quite easily.

 

To be honest they are not a baying dog, they are a catch dog, and for the size / weight quarry that you are trying to stop, you might want something with a bit more weight to it, as your bull/whip isn't gonna stand back and yap at the pig, it's going to pile in and try to hang on to it.

 

Like i said, if i were you, and i was looking for a dog to hunt a specific landscape, after specific quarry, i would have a good look at folk hunting the same land for the same quarry and either use their types, or base my improved type upon their blood, rather than try to re-invent the wheel.

[Dan Edwards 1,134]

Get yourself a little 55 to 60 pound staghound gyp that will catch and breed her to a little 35 pound bulldog male and you can have a smaller type dog that will be quick as a cat and might do the trick.

[L8SPORTS 19]

Why old southern White Billy ? Plenty other lines of AB harder/better than the usually made up fictional OSW which are usually just AB's anyway.

 

I agree that a bull grey x (performance/standard) AB would probably be a good pig dog depending of the dogs used.

How is an old southern white the same as any Orther bull dog ?

And what Orther lines do better catch work than S.W ?

What Orther straines of catch dog A.B don't go back to the old southern white or the old Hines dogs which are one and the same anyway ?

 

 

[j1985 1,984]

OSW is a gimmick, it was a term used to describe AB's that had no modern AB influence. But now is just another name used for pumping out expensive apperntly pure bred puppies with a mythical history... Aint no such thing, the AB has more breeds in its make up than any other I know lol not saying there isn't any lines of OSW that don't go back 40/50/60 odd years untouched by any other breeds but I doubt it.

 

Show me a real OSW outworking a full hogdog AB on pigs...

 

 

[shaunpauls7 131]

http://www.boardogs.com/

[Dan Edwards 1,134]

OSW is a gimmick, it was a term used to describe AB's that had no modern AB influence. But now is just another name used for pumping out expensive apperntly pure bred puppies with a mythical history... Aint no such thing, the AB has more breeds in its make up than any other I know lol not saying there isn't any lines of OSW that don't go back 40/50/60 odd years untouched by any other breeds but I doubt it.

 

Show me a real OSW outworking a full hogdog AB on pigs...

 

You are exactly right but then again all of the "breeds" for the most part are a gimmick and a scam so one douchebag can make money off another douchebag.

[stevebro 7]

There is a lot of guess work in this thread.

 

Look closer to home, i'm sure there is someone who has had similar ideas to you, and has worked something out.

 

With regard to bull x whips - from what i know, yes they are 'game' (if thats the term you wish to use), well, they will kill a fox anyway, and are tough little b*****ds, they have decent noses, only the failed ones bark / yap while on game, and it's usually pit type bulls used. They don't have the toughest skin, and can tear quite easily.

 

To be honest they are not a baying dog, they are a catch dog, and for the size / weight quarry that you are trying to stop, you might want something with a bit more weight to it, as your bull/whip isn't gonna stand back and yap at the pig, it's going to pile in and try to hang on to it.

 

Like i said, if i were you, and i was looking for a dog to hunt a specific landscape, after specific quarry, i would have a good look at folk hunting the same land for the same quarry and either use their types, or base my improved type upon their blood, rather than try to re-invent the wheel.

this is the kind of info im lookin for! im not after other ideas of breeds thanks lads.

to be honest i have x bred dogs and some of them come from a long line of dogs which include English bull and whippet among others......and i would like to bring the pure blood back to highlight their treats....but gettin a 1st x from elsewhere would save me a couple years breeding......

 

what i want is a smaller type dog with a lot of aditude

[stevemac 442]

There are 2 breeders that are doing the buisness in NZ 1- lockley with his bully cattle greyhounds or bully lab. greyhounds 2 monteria- with his britsh bull dog x pointer greyhounds or his dogo xs I m not a full time pig hunter though I get a few my son and I prepher bully staghounds

 

I did meet an old fella a little while back that hunts everything including pigs with 6 or 7 whippets all pur breds about 20 to 21" tts they do well like a pack of parana its very impressive to see a decent boar stop dead when a couple of these are swinging of its nuts.

Edited December 14, 2011 by stevemac

[GrCh 856]

OSW is a gimmick, it was a term used to describe AB's that had no modern AB influence. But now is just another name used for pumping out expensive apperntly pure bred puppies with a mythical history... Aint no such thing, the AB has more breeds in its make up than any other I know lol not saying there isn't any lines of OSW that don't go back 40/50/60 odd years untouched by any other breeds but I doubt it.

 

Show me a real OSW outworking a full hogdog AB on pigs...

 

whats the ambull in your pic mate

[stevemac 442]

Get yourself a little 55 to 60 pound staghound gyp that will catch and breed her to a little 35 pound bulldog male and you can have a smaller type dog that will be quick as a cat and might do the trick.

Hit the nail on the head there Dan.

[j1985 1,984]

OSW is a gimmick, it was a term used to describe AB's that had no modern AB influence. But now is just another name used for pumping out expensive apperntly pure bred puppies with a mythical history... Aint no such thing, the AB has more breeds in its make up than any other I know lol not saying there isn't any lines of OSW that don't go back 40/50/60 odd years untouched by any other breeds but I doubt it.

 

Show me a real OSW outworking a full hogdog AB on pigs...

 

whats the ambull in your pic mate

 

Sires a Kinghaven/Hines and the Dams a Hines/OSW lol

[L8SPORTS 19]

OSW are the purest AB around and even thow the not recorded as long as some breeds have there still the purest strain of the AB catch dog

They were not out crossed over the years unlike

SCOTT - Allan Scott he had a more pitbull vision so he went that way

JOHNSTONE - J D Johnson liked the bully breed and rely messed it up if you ask me by turning them in to 130 lb genetic messes

There actually trying to seperate the Johnston breed from the performance A.B

 

A FEW GOOD CATCH DOGS IM FAMILIAR WITH

 

HOG HAMMER ( white night kennels )

 

JJ ( WNK )

 

SNOWBIRD ( jay Dorsey )

 

HOG WILD WONAN ( WNK )

 

BOSS HOG

There all old southern whites / Hines catch dogs

to 90 lb males that are agile game athletic and can hold a pig

no 50lb cross is doing that ! It will just take off threw the forest with a pair of whippet x earrings

 

 

 

[j1985 1,984]

Bosshog, snowbird and even hoghammer are in my boys ped!! Neither one has a real guaranteed ped and boss hog aswell as snowbird are thought to be pit crosses... If you want to believe all that "pure" bullshit then crack on but if you spoke to as many people as I have on the subject via phone/email/mail etc then you wouldn't trust me. Also anything from White knight is foofoo and is no catch dog but a pen tested AB pretending to be an OSW

[L8SPORTS 19]

Bosshog, snowbird and even hoghammer are in my boys ped!! Neither one has a real guaranteed ped and boss hog aswell as snowbird are thought to be pit crosses... If you want to believe all that "pure" bullshit then crack on but if you spoke to as many people as I have on the subject via phone/email/mail etc then you wouldn't trust me. Also anything from White knight is foofoo and is no catch dog but a pen tested AB pretending to be an OSW

 

I no there crosses all im saying is there the purest catch dogs as far as catch Doggs go !

And I've had dogs direct out of

Hog Hammer

Joshua's old sw

I've had dogs of Allen Scott's yard that were born in quarantine I started with the barkers stuff and to be honest I sold them all !! There not enough dog and to scatter bred but the bottom line is the dogs I mentioned catch hogs and wether there sitting in kennels or in a house as a pet they don't look like slouches on the vids I seen.

Out of all the A.B it's Hines Scott xs that I like the best and the dogs I had were from working back grounds and done the job so I'm not rely intrested in anything else if it can do the job then it's a hog dog.