What is your thoughts on electric training collars?

[Guest thebigdog]

Put the collar on the owner....i would never have one on a lurcher

so you would rarther give a dog away or pts after all that hard work you must be crazy mate why not use a collar if it gets the result after everything else fails times are changing mate move with them not against

 

times might be changing but how to train a dog is still the same, shock collars create a nervousness in a dog regardless how you use it or how strong headed you dog is. its electrocuting the dog ffs.

[johnny boy68 11,726]

They are banned in our country(Wales) I've never had cause to use one or hopefully ever will...........seen a lad use one before on his lurcher all it succeded in doing was to make it rag the sheep with more tenacity.

[scothunter 12,609]

oh i would not dream of putting one on a lurcher.if i had a dog that needed that kind of training.im afraid we would be parting company.i wold consider it for something like a highly strung alsation or similar type of dog.however only as a very last resort.

[the big chief 3,099]

Put the collar on the owner....i would never have one on a lurcher

so you would rarther give a dog away or pts after all that hard work you must be crazy mate why not use a collar if it gets the result after everything else fails times are changing mate move with them not against

 

times might be changing but how to train a dog is still the same, shock collars create a nervousness in a dog regardless how you use it or how strong headed you dog is. its electrocuting the dog ffs.

the one i have used it on is far from nervouse have you even used one of theas collars or are you going on other peoples a counts i can tell you what you have said mate is a load of bollox

[johnny boy68 11,726]

Put the collar on the owner....i would never have one on a lurcher

so you would rarther give a dog away or pts after all that hard work you must be crazy mate why not use a collar if it gets the result after everything else fails times are changing mate move with them not against

 

times might be changing but how to train a dog is still the same, shock collars create a nervousness in a dog regardless how you use it or how strong headed you dog is. its electrocuting the dog ffs.

the one i have used it on is far from nervouse have you even used one of theas collars or are you going on other peoples a counts i can tell you what you have said mate is a load of bollox

Here goes the gafer again if you don't agree you're talking bollax.

 

Do you use your electric collar on your "game" lurchers?

[the big chief 3,099]

Put the collar on the owner....i would never have one on a lurcher

so you would rarther give a dog away or pts after all that hard work you must be crazy mate why not use a collar if it gets the result after everything else fails times are changing mate move with them not against

 

times might be changing but how to train a dog is still the same, shock collars create a nervousness in a dog regardless how you use it or how strong headed you dog is. its electrocuting the dog ffs.

the one i have used it on is far from nervouse have you even used one of theas collars or are you going on other peoples a counts i can tell you what you have said mate is a load of bollox

Here goes the gafer again if you don't agree you're talking bollax.

 

Do you use your electric collar on your "game" lurchers?

they dont make dogs nervouse so ye bollox mate

[danw 1,748]

They are banned in our country(Wales) I've never had cause to use one or hopefully ever will...........seen a lad use one before on his lurcher all it succeded in doing was to make it rag the sheep with more tenacity.

 

IF and its a big IF he used it properly the dog wouldn't have even been in a position to rag the sheep but then as I said plenty of twats get them and don't use them correctly.

Edited November 26, 2011 by danw

[undisputed 1,664]

Put the collar on the owner....i would never have one on a lurcher

so you would rarther give a dog away or pts after all that hard work you must be crazy mate why not use a collar if it gets the result after everything else fails times are changing mate move with them not against

 

No I would rather train the dog properly in the first place.....the only thing that appears to be changing is people taking the time and effort to train their dogs properly. As I said I've never needed one on a lurcher maybe that's just me!

[the big chief 3,099]

Put the collar on the owner....i would never have one on a lurcher

so you would rarther give a dog away or pts after all that hard work you must be crazy mate why not use a collar if it gets the result after everything else fails times are changing mate move with them not against

 

No I would rather train the dog properly in the first place.....the only thing that appears to be changing is people taking the time and effort to train their dogs properly. As I said I've never needed one on a lurcher maybe that's just me!

i do train all mine the corect way i all ways have i used the collar as a last resort i dont use it in replace of training because you carnt they dont work like that

[undisputed 1,664]

So in what circumstances would you use one?

[poacher3161 1,766]

Theirs just some thing about them that just dont sit right with me and would never use one but saying that i have seen them being effective on some gundog breeds .

[danw 1,748]

Put the collar on the owner....i would never have one on a lurcher

so you would rarther give a dog away or pts after all that hard work you must be crazy mate why not use a collar if it gets the result after everything else fails times are changing mate move with them not against

 

No I would rather train the dog properly in the first place.....the only thing that appears to be changing is people taking the time and effort to train their dogs properly. As I said I've never needed one on a lurcher maybe that's just me!

i do train all mine the corect way i all ways have i used the collar as a last resort i dont use it in replace of training because you carnt they dont work like that

 

 

They do work just like that if you use an aversive training method just as you would use a pinch collar but in general people stick to reward based methods and I think that lurchers tending to be of a softer nature respond to reward better that said in some circumstances they will get results when other methods fail

[the big chief 3,099]

what i used it for on mine was i did all the training every thing spot on 1st nite lamping spot on 2nd 3rd and on the 4th time out started to hunt up tride everything i new to get him back i would take an average of 40 minits to an hour to get him back by that time nothing left to hunt so it was get rid or pts so i gave the collar ago worked a treet allways on low

[hogdog 61]

There's alot of ignorance about them and alot of assumptions made. I agree that in the wrong hands they are an instrument of torture but in the right hands, on the right dog, in the right circumstances they are the best tool you can own.

[oldred58 340]

A LAZY MANS TOOL, OR JUST A TOY, A DOG SHOULD DO HIS WORK BECOUSE HE INJOYS IT, NOT FORCED TO, THROUGH PUNISHMENT (TORTURE)