What is your thoughts on electric training collars?

[hogdog 61]

A LAZY MANS TOOL, OR JUST A TOY, A DOG SHOULD DO HIS WORK BECOUSE HE INJOYS IT, NOT FORCED TO, THROUGH PUNISHMENT (TORTURE)

 

You can't make a dog work by using one, you can stop it getting run over though.

[the big chief 3,099]

ther is alot of ignorent people about theas collars the collars can only be used to stop the dog from doing things

[danw 1,748]

ther is alot of ignorent people about theas collars the collars can only be used to stop the dog from doing things

 

 

NOT true collars can be used to make a dog comply as well as refrain from a task/behaviour

Edited November 26, 2011 by danw

[oldred58 340]

A LAZY MANS TOOL, OR JUST A TOY, A DOG SHOULD DO HIS WORK BECOUSE HE INJOYS IT, NOT FORCED TO, THROUGH PUNISHMENT (TORTURE)

 

You can't make a dog work by using one, you can stop it getting run over though.

I DONT WORK MY DOGS ON THE M6, CAN THE COLLER TEACH DOGS THE GREEN CROSS CODE

[oldred58 340]

ther is alot of ignorent people about theas collars the collars can only be used to stop the dog from doing things

IF YOUR DOGS ARE HEAVY ON THE BUNNIES DO YOU TAKE THERE TEETH OUT?

[hogdog 61]

A LAZY MANS TOOL, OR JUST A TOY, A DOG SHOULD DO HIS WORK BECOUSE HE INJOYS IT, NOT FORCED TO, THROUGH PUNISHMENT (TORTURE)

 

You can't make a dog work by using one, you can stop it getting run over though.

I DONT WORK MY DOGS ON THE M6, CAN THE COLLER TEACH DOGS THE GREEN CROSS CODE

 

Well that's nice for you but you shouldn't knock it until you've tried it. It's not a replacement for training and you don't have to use it, it's a last resort that's there for you if you ever need it.

[the big chief 3,099]

its clear there are some conflicting views on this subject i am happy with the results you get from one if other people dont like them thats up to them so i'm out of this one befour all the sillynes starts

[oldred58 340]

A LAZY MANS TOOL, OR JUST A TOY, A DOG SHOULD DO HIS WORK BECOUSE HE INJOYS IT, NOT FORCED TO, THROUGH PUNISHMENT (TORTURE)

 

You can't make a dog work by using one, you can stop it getting run over though.

I DONT WORK MY DOGS ON THE M6, CAN THE COLLER TEACH DOGS THE GREEN CROSS CODE

 

Well that's nice for you but you shouldn't knock it until you've tried it. It's not a replacement for training and you don't have to use it, it's a last resort that's there for you if you ever need it.

I AM PROUD TO SAY IN NEAR ON 50YEARS IVE SORTED OUT ANY PROBLEMS I COME A CROSS THE OLD WAYS WITH MY DOGS, LIKE I SAY, A LAZY MANS TOOL, YOU COLLER USES GIVE ME SOME EXSAMPLES WHEN YOU HAVE NEEDED TO USE ONE, IF YOU CAN

[danw 1,748]

I am proud to say in 21 years I have never had a dog that didn't walk to heel without a lead in fact I have never owned a lead, seen many folks use one incorrectly though seen dogs hit with them, seen dogs dragged with them, seen dogs choked with them,seen dogs tied up and left with them seems to me a lead is a lazy mans tool the day I need one I reckon I'll pack the dogs in

Edited November 26, 2011 by danw

[Tally Ho Hunter 60]

there a handy tool for stock breaking there is many settings on them sound worse than they are and as for stock training only takes someone else's dog to bother while yours is off the lead for them to get a taste for it.

[oldred58 340]

I am proud to say in 21 years I have never had a dog that didn't walk to heel without a lead in fact I have never owned a lead, seen many folks use one incorrectly though seen dogs hit with them, seen dogs dragged with them, seen dogs chocked with them,seen dogs tied up and left with them seems to me a lead is a lazy mans tool the day I need one I reckon I'll pack the dogs in

WELL I WHOLE HEARTEDLY AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAY, SO YOUR DOGS ARE SO WELL TRAIND AND BEHAVED THROUGH THE USE OF A COLLER. WERE MY DOGS ARE AS WELL BEHAVED WITH NO USE OF ANY TOOL, BUT EXPERIENCE AND PATIENCE.

[oldred58 340]

there a handy tool for stock breaking there is many settings on them sound worse than they are and as for stock training only takes someone else's dog to bother while yours is off the lead for them to get a taste for it.

HOW I STOCK BREAK MY DOGS IS TAKE THEM THOUGH STOCK AT A YOUNG AGE AND EVERY TIME THEY TURN THERE HEAD THEY ARE TOLD NO, SO IF THIS IS CARIED ON FROM 12 WEEKS OLD THEY SOON LEARN THAT THEY ARE NOT THE QUARY.BUT A LAZY MANS WAY IS TO LEAVE THERE DOG RUN FREE IN A FIELD WERE THERE ARE STOCK AND WHEN THE DOG CHASES STOCK BECOUSE THEY KNOW NO BETTER THEY ARE GIVEN AN ELECTRIC SHOCK SO SAD

[danw 1,748]

I am proud to say in 21 years I have never had a dog that didn't walk to heel without a lead in fact I have never owned a lead, seen many folks use one incorrectly though seen dogs hit with them, seen dogs dragged with them, seen dogs chocked with them,seen dogs tied up and left with them seems to me a lead is a lazy mans tool the day I need one I reckon I'll pack the dogs in

WELL I WHOLE HEARTEDLY AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAY, SO YOUR DOGS ARE SO WELL TRAIND AND BEHAVED THROUGH THE USE OF A COLLER. WERE MY DOGS ARE AS WELL BEHAVED WITH NO USE OF ANY TOOL, BUT EXPERIENCE AND PATIENCE.

 

 

Should have added only ever used a collar once for a dog that lost focus when working past 200 yards one correction and it never needed a collar again but hey non of us are perfect are we.what I do understand though is the principle of its correct use and how they can be used within aversion training I would far sooner learn from others methodology than blindly believe that everyone elses methods are wrong,

[danw 1,748]

there a handy tool for stock breaking there is many settings on them sound worse than they are and as for stock training only takes someone else's dog to bother while yours is off the lead for them to get a taste for it.

HOW I STOCK BREAK MY DOGS IS TAKE THEM THOUGH STOCK AT A YOUNG AGE AND EVERY TIME THEY TURN THERE HEAD THEY ARE TOLD NO, SO IF THIS IS CARIED ON FROM 12 WEEKS OLD THEY SOON LEARN THAT THEY ARE NOT THE QUARY.BUT A LAZY MANS WAY IS TO LEAVE THERE DOG RUN FREE IN A FIELD WERE THERE ARE STOCK AND WHEN THE DOG CHASES STOCK BECOUSE THEY KNOW NO BETTER THEY ARE GIVEN AN ELECTRIC SHOCK SO SAD

 

what you describe would not be the correct way to use the collar anyway but then you are clearly an expert in their use. not point continuing this as far as I'm concerned if as your location describes your in wales you don't get the choice anyway so it's pretty pointless.

[oldred58 340]

WELL GETTING READY FOR A NIGHTS LAMPING, BE BACK TOMORROW FOR CLASS, SO YOU COLLER MEN CAN EDUCATE ME SOME MORE, ON HOW TO BE A LAZY TWAT LIKE YOUR SELVES, SO I TO CAN PUNISH AND TORTURE MY DOGS AND BECOME AN EXCELLENT DOG TRAINER LIKE YOUR SELVES