chay 0 Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 any one give me advice on bales the kkeper i help has asked me to go tommorow to check bales at the estate.2 foxes were seen on them this morning and he reckons its the ones that have been skulking about beside his pens and he wants rid of them they took one of his ducks and some hens but immediate earths were empty and the bales are only 200 yards from the pens, the dens 350 -400 yards so my dogs never worked bales before any advice would be appreciated folks... will she enter as keenly into bales as she does an earth? im doing it tommorow so please please let me know of any hints or probable outcomes if there is such a thing in terrier work Quote Link to post
wink hound 0 Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 what sort of bales are they mate? bales are one of my favorite games! Quote Link to post
chay 0 Posted April 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 round bales approx 2 meters high 20 long and 2 abrest what bales are you usually in amongst wink hound guys ive zero experience with these so please Quote Link to post
wink hound 0 Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 all sorts mate, big and small, i love um. imho round bales are the easiest to work. personal prefrence, a good little bolting bitch, not to hard(that they bottle them up so they cant move or get wedged in) and not to soft that they wont jump up or down at them to get them to shift. thankfully i have a couple that have got working bales down to an art. if control was the issue would have competent shots in good persitions or good relable lurchers. i would also be tempted to stop any near by large earths and leave the smaller ones open. most foxes will bolt easily and quickly from round bales so be prepared. if your terrier is good to ground she should have no problem running bales. espesially not round ones. like in big spots a good nose i required. although the way describe your bales they sound very managable compared to most round here. now the next bit of advice comes form alot of experience in bales, some may disagree with it but i practice it. i will not put a dog into bales that have netting on(most round bales) with any collor on, i have seen 2 dogs killed this way due to being hung up. the larger square or smaller square that have just string fine, as bolts from these can sometimes be more difficult, and location might be needed, but not round netted bales, the negatives far out way the positives in my eyes, but ofcourse thats your call. hope that helps a bit, wink Quote Link to post
chay 0 Posted April 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 they are not netted . is the entrances as easy to spot as at an earth,will it be obvious were to enter ?i know it may sound stupid but its not that common up here for foxes to use bales Quote Link to post
chay 0 Posted April 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 is there a certain area they will use or will they probly be running the whole row of bales Quote Link to post
Ricky-N.p.p 0 Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 there will normally be sings of where they are using mate but they can come out anywhere, i have seen them coming out of the tops of bales so just be ready for them ! Quote Link to post
wink hound 0 Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 should be easy to spot mate, i would just let the dog find her own way, but yes if they are usd there will normally be visable entrances/exits. they will lie where its warm and dry, often off the ground. Quote Link to post
chay 0 Posted April 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 ssems to be common sense and caution il tread lightly and let you know how i get on tomorow ive got a usb for the camera so hopefully a pic too .im actually quite nervous about the whole thing??????????? ive never done it this early either so there may be cubs too dont know if thats good or bad???? it aint just for the sport there is problems now and sure when the poults come there would be bother then they are too close for comfort.. but chaps im on all night so any more advice will not go a miss thanks all so far ssems to be common sense and caution il tread lightly and let you know how i get on tomorow ive got a usb for the camera so hopefully a pic too .im actually quite nervous about the whole thing??????????? ive never done it this early either so there may be cubs too dont know if thats good or bad???? it aint just for the sport there is problems now and sure when the poults come there would be bother then they are too close for comfort.. but chaps im on all night so any more advice will not go a miss thanks all so far Quote Link to post
Guest grubygrafter Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 dont let any guns stand faceing the bales. put a gun on top of the bales or either end faceing out. just safer for the terriers. have fun :thumbs-up: Quote Link to post
cappie49 0 Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 My experience is that they usually lie on the bottom in round bales and anywhere in square bales.Some reason they always bolted better in square bales.I think this is because on the places I work bales the square ones are usually stacked in a huge barn and the dog takes a little longer to get there,where as there is fewer round ones along a hedge and the dog is straight on.Many times I have entered a dog that has draw foxes from round bales,and a few times had a dog that has pulled out both fox and another dog. Quote Link to post
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