Caprelous 217 Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 Anybody got any contacts at a garden center or nursery? I am after some end of season rose briars climbing variety preferred to plant out in a few areas on mt wildlife habitat program . must be cheap though . Also after a few Virginia creepers or Russian vines to cover quickly some ground boxes. Stu Quote Link to post
gerfalcon 13 Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 LOL Nothing like sticking to native plants. Forget the roses. Go for some of the commercial available climbing blackberry varieties. There are literally dozens and dozens to choose from They will take better , grow faster and you can propagate them easily in order to spread them about or you can simply leave it to the birds and the beasts to do it for you. Same goes for the creepers and vines. Go find some good old fashioned honeysuckle. No forester is gong to thank you for bunging russian vine in his woods. Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 got to agree there mate. Quote Link to post
Caprelous 217 Posted November 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 got to agree there mate. Bleeding heck someones agreed with Gerfalcon I will run the flag up Quote Link to post
Caprelous 217 Posted November 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 got to agree there mate. Bleeding heck someones agreed with Gerfalcon I will run the flag up He will be taking you out next on his ground Quote Link to post
gerfalcon 13 Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 got to agree there mate. Bleeding heck someones agreed with Gerfalcon I will run the flag up He will be taking you out next on his ground Cheeky bugger! Quote Link to post
Caprelous 217 Posted November 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 (edited) As the Forest and land is owned by a private individual and discussed and agreed the wildlife management plan which he supports fully, it matters not what your opinions are on the rights and wrongs of our program and my original question still stands. Edited November 26, 2011 by Caprelous Quote Link to post
gerfalcon 13 Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 I accept that its his ground ......................given the plants selected. I would have to question his judgement in regards to his agreement of the plan. Don't forget that the close relatives to Russian vine(Fallopia baldschuanica, syn.Polygonum aubertii, Polygonum baldschuanicum) are Japanese Knotweed (Fallopia japonica, syn. Polygonum cuspidatum, Reynoutria japonica) and giant knotweed (Fallopia sachalinenis, syn. Polygonum sachalinense) Virginia creeper (Parthenocissus quinquefolia) is a vigorous grower and may get out of hand if not kept in check . It will climb trees up to about 50ft and cast shade on their leaves depriving them of needed sunlight. Don't allow it to grow on specimen trees what ever you do. Presumable he wants to create some kind of semi wild suburban garden type environment. Which is a novel approach. I was involved in such a project about 10-12 years ago. It was different and we managed to satisfy the client.................... eventually. We made a few mistakes along the way. Quote Link to post
WILF 47,199 Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Firstly, I would be checking with defra about how you stand on introducing alien species into a wild environment?.....just a thought Quote Link to post
Caprelous 217 Posted November 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Firstly, I would be checking with defra about how you stand on introducing alien species into a wild environment?.....just a thought Good Point WILF not considered that. I will look into it. Quote Link to post
gerfalcon 13 Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Firstly, I would be checking with defra about how you stand on introducing alien species into a wild environment?.....just a thought Neither climbing roses, nor Russian vine is on the new schedule 9 invasive species schedule. Although Virginia creeper is along with 35 other plant species. The new Scottish Wildlife £ Natural Environment bill came in in April 2011. It makes it illegal to plant any non-native plant in the wild in Scotland ! Exactly what constitutes a non native plant in Scotland I have yet to ascertain. Quote Link to post
Caprelous 217 Posted November 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Firstly, I would be checking with defra about how you stand on introducing alien species into a wild environment?.....just a thought Neither climbing roses, nor Russian vine is on the new schedule 9 invasive species schedule. Although Virginia creeper is along with 35 other plant species. The new Scottish Wildlife £ Natural Environment bill came in in April 2011. It makes it illegal to plant any non-native plant in the wild in Scotland ! Exactly what constitutes a non native plant in Scotland I have yet to ascertain. What the hell have they been planting then in respect to Sika Spruce and all the other non native trees Quote Link to post
gerfalcon 13 Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 You best ask SNH and the FC that one mate. Do you still want some climbing roses. Quote Link to post
Caprelous 217 Posted November 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 You best ask SNH and the FC that one mate. Do you still want some climbing roses. Yep have you a contact? Quote Link to post
gerfalcon 13 Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 (edited) You know me. I'll have a wade through the old filofax. Edited November 29, 2011 by gerfalcon Quote Link to post
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