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Just had the day from hell trying to get a bit of permission.

 

250 miles round trip,,wasted journey.... got the big NO from everywhere I asked.

 

Seen some very interesting characters whilst out ..Saw one old lass driving a tractor looked like one of them characters from Royston Vassey.

 

I won't be asking anymore as a refusal definately offends.

 

Its all mine from now on.

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I 100% get what you are saying, but it's a big circle. You think ' f**k em, i'm just going to poach', and then next man, who goes to get permission, gets told to f**k off, because of what you are doin

there isnt' many times a keeper will turn down the offer of a few days beating/or helping out gain his trust and you would be surprised what doors that will open.

its a small world getting permission ,i personally think the best idea is if you see loads of pigeons flying and ask to go shoting them on a day to day basis .get your feet in slowly worse they can say is NO they think there doing you the favour but its the other way round ive done it locally my self and its worked now the lands coming to me ,but you was blunt what you was asking permission for ,ratting and pigeons is a good start ,the dogs and lamps are last orders

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One of the big estates I asked on was on full lock down due to some lampers stealing a couple of motorbikes and quads recently..The keepers were almost friendly but deffinately not for having me on their patch or anyone else..Said the word was out and they were clamping down on all the lads who already had permission.

I can tell you this ..after all the funny looks and the refusals yesterday,i dont think i can face asking again..I felt like a 10 year old in the headmasters study waiting to be punished..

When you ask politely and try your hardest to be nice and it gets thrown back in your face,well after a while you just think f..k off.. I would rather explain what im doing to the coppers when they catch me than ask again. :tongue2:

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One of the big estates I asked on was on full lock down due to some lampers stealing a couple of motorbikes and quads recently..The keepers were almost friendly but deffinately not for having me on their patch or anyone else..Said the word was out and they were clamping down on all the lads who already had permission.

I can tell you this ..after all the funny looks and the refusals yesterday,i dont think i can face asking again..I felt like a 10 year old in the headmasters study waiting to be punished..

When you ask politely and try your hardest to be nice and it gets thrown back in your face,well after a while you just think f..k off.. I would rather explain what im doing to the coppers when they catch me than ask again. :tongue2:

 

same here mate, im fed up of trying to be honest, just risk it for a biscuit. and stay away from anywhere too hot

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I have worked a lot of places for years without permission and never had any hassel and i have often thought of calling in and asking for permission so i would have no worries but then i thought what if i was told no ,but as it stand i just carry on doing what im doing and then if i am aproached i can explain my case and see what happens from there,.I did get some new permission a few weeks ago when i was on my way out for a days digging and came across a few sheep that had escaped from a field ,i found the farm house went in told the farmer and came back down and gave him a hand getting the sheep back in and of course the issue came up and i was told no dogs while the stock are out but they will be in soon and i can work away :boogy:

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One of the big estates I asked on was on full lock down due to some lampers stealing a couple of motorbikes and quads recently..The keepers were almost friendly but deffinately not for having me on their patch or anyone else..Said the word was out and they were clamping down on all the lads who already had permission.

I can tell you this ..after all the funny looks and the refusals yesterday,i dont think i can face asking again..I felt like a 10 year old in the headmasters study waiting to be punished..

When you ask politely and try your hardest to be nice and it gets thrown back in your face,well after a while you just think f..k off.. I would rather explain what im doing to the coppers when they catch me than ask again. :tongue2:

i think if you are in ferreting more than lamping, you got to keep knocking doors, and (never) mention dogs (lurchers). You could say as well you will do ratting for them as well, but if you in to lamping more so just take your chance .! A mate of mine used to ask for lamping, got the big no , so he still went on . He got pulled one night farmer said i told you no regars lamping on here, and you still came on . next time the police will be called he said to him. So you may as well say feck all with lamping, because they wont let you on,, just get few rabbits and piss off quick :thumbs:
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Just work at it, and be honest it really is the best policy if you are into this game long term ;-)

Their seem to be too many people poaching supidly and getting caught and this messes it up for honest lads who work hard for the permission.

Once you get marked as a poaching wrongun word travels and sticks then you are screwed.

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One of the big estates I asked on was on full lock down due to some lampers stealing a couple of motorbikes and quads recently..The keepers were almost friendly but deffinately not for having me on their patch or anyone else..Said the word was out and they were clamping down on all the lads who already had permission.

I can tell you this ..after all the funny looks and the refusals yesterday,i dont think i can face asking again..I felt like a 10 year old in the headmasters study waiting to be punished..

When you ask politely and try your hardest to be nice and it gets thrown back in your face,well after a while you just think f..k off.. I would rather explain what im doing to the coppers when they catch me than ask again. :tongue2:

Try the big estate nr me vin they have have let every fekin idiot in s.yorkshire on who owns a shotgun bladdering all the fekin hares mind you you would want ear defenders with the prince charles twins lol
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Just work at it, and be honest it really is the best policy if you are into this game long term ;-)

Their seem to be too many people poaching supidly and getting caught and this messes it up for honest lads who work hard for the permission.

Once you get marked as a poaching wrongun word travels and sticks then you are screwed.

i got permision off 2 farmers for being exactly that :laugh: one said i might aswell give you permision as your down here more than i am anyway :laugh: the other said just keep an eye out at night around the farm for him. after he had both quadbikes pinched the week before :thumbs: so a reputation for poaching isnt always a bad thing, have you never herd of an honest poacher :tongue2:
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Been lucky recently in knowing the right people to get me on some permision. Done a couple of trips with the ferrets and picked up another 3 farms off the back of it, gonna have a walk on 1 of them tonight. I tend to ask for the ferreting first and push for the lamping after, even so 1 farm I've got close to me I've known the bloke for 15 years or so and he will only let me ferret on it still, I've not give up on the idea yet though, a few peolple who "lamp" give everyone a bad name.

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