the big chief 3,099 Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 they would brobably have been a totaly diferent dog back in the day I agree with that gafer but there are still a fair share of good beddyx about.But to see the breed run in it's prime in the old days would have been a sight to see.Wanting to know where the make up of this breed came about ect? Because this is a breed that suits me down to a T. atb shaun try phil hayes mate he breeds beddy types he will no alot Quote Link to post
bivvyman 0 Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 got 2 bedy whippets they are fantastic hunters Quote Link to post
bunnys 1,228 Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 BEDDYS WERE A BREED COME ABOUT THEY RECKON CLOSE TO THE DANDIE DINMONT TRAVELLING TYPE FOLKS USED THEM HAS VERMIN TYPE DOGS AND WE NOT AFRAID TO PIT THEM AGAINST OTHERS THEY WERE A VERY GAME BRED TYPE IN THE EARLY DAYS BUT SOME INFUSED WHIPPET WHICH MAY NOT HAVE BEEN A BAD THING BUT THE INTRODUCTION OF POODLE BLOOD BY THE SHOW CRAZY GANG DID DETERIATE THE BREED . george newcombe and others revived the breed by introduction of lakeland fell and border blood . there are still a few of the real good uns about thankfu;;y to those who breed for work below ground .atb bunnys. Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 There are always a lot of folk that talk about their good beddy lurchers. . . . . Now maybe i'm going to get shot down over this, but where are all the top class working beddys that they are being bred from, cos i was under the impression that most of the beddys about were pure shit or sub standard at best (seen a few good ones though, coco on here looks like he has a pair of crackers). I reckon most of these good beddy greys and whips.. . .. the quality of the dog comes from the greyhound or whippet used (which people massivly under estimate) and the beddy is just giving it a bit of a thicker coat etc and making them a bit less accident prone etc. 3 Quote Link to post
darbo 4,776 Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 a good beddy will add to the mix good nose,stamina,determination decent feet thicker skin.a reduction in size when put to a greyhound.fast for a terrier also a agile dog in its own right. if your quarry is rabbits there are enough good strong beddys around to produce good lurchers. speed is not everything.i have seen beddy lurchers work over a 26 year period and seen some belters. does the beddy have to be a earth dog to produce a ferreting/mooching/lamping dog?i have seen beddys mark spot on. their hunting up ability has impressed me. i think they are a good mix to a whippet/grey or greyhound. seen some cracking beddy whippets for ferreting/mooching dogs cant compare these to a whippet as i have never seen one work. there are large beddys about with good blood in them when put to the above..what are most beddys pure shit or sub standard at?if you mean earth work im not the man to answer was never my game. but as stated there are beddys with good blood in them going back years. that would have the ability to produce a decent lurcher. 1 Quote Link to post
harvey d 43 Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 i had a bedlington x greyhound given to me when i was a lad in the 60,s, the lad who gave him to me thought he was to small, he was 6 months old he was bred in clitheroe lanc,s, i think they were a commercial kennel and bred deerhound x,s as well, what a good dog he turned out for a young lad, he opened a few doors for me Quote Link to post
darbo 4,776 Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 i had a bedlington x greyhound given to me when i was a lad in the 60,s, the lad who gave him to me thought he was to small, he was 6 months old he was bred in clitheroe lanc,s, i think they were a commercial kennel and bred deerhound x,s as well, what a good dog he turned out for a young lad, he opened a few doors for me that will be nuttalls kennels. Quote Link to post
harvey d 43 Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 i had a bedlington x greyhound given to me when i was a lad in the 60,s, the lad who gave him to me thought he was to small, he was 6 months old he was bred in clitheroe lanc,s, i think they were a commercial kennel and bred deerhound x,s as well, what a good dog he turned out for a young lad, he opened a few doors for me that will be nuttalls kennels. i think they advertised in the exchange + mart he was a great hunting dog and game as they come Quote Link to post
keepitcovert 842 Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 Getting back to the history of the beddy lurcher the original name was the rothberry fighting dog, bred by the gypsies in the rothberry forest area of northhumberland and later named the bedlington after the village of bedlington where they were reputedly bred. The ancestors of the breed are reputedly the dandie dinmont the otterhound and the whippet. One thing i do know having owned them is they are game as hell if bred off the working strains, and for small lurchers they punch well above their weight, mine was a fox killer that never jibbed, can be headstrong to the point of frustration, but also worth the effort put into training, I dont believe the beddy lurcher was bred for its coat, what can the linty coat of the beddy offer in the way of protection, i personnaly think it was bred for its powers of scenting, ive never owned any dog that could scent and mark as good as my old beddy. 1 Quote Link to post
sowhat 1,572 Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 There are always a lot of folk that talk about their good beddy lurchers. . . . . Now maybe i'm going to get shot down over this, but where are all the top class working beddys that they are being bred from, cos i was under the impression that most of the beddys about were pure shit or sub standard at best (seen a few good ones though, coco on here looks like he has a pair of crackers). I reckon most of these good beddy greys and whips.. . .. the quality of the dog comes from the greyhound or whippet used (which people massivly under estimate) and the beddy is just giving it a bit of a thicker coat etc and making them a bit less accident prone etc. Bang on my friend Quote Link to post
sowhat 1,572 Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 a good beddy will add to the mix good nose,stamina,determination decent feet thicker skin.a reduction in size when put to a greyhound.fast for a terrier also a agile dog in its own right. if your quarry is rabbits there are enough good strong beddys around to produce good lurchers. speed is not everything.i have seen beddy lurchers work over a 26 year period and seen some belters. does the beddy have to be a earth dog to produce a ferreting/mooching/lamping dog?i have seen beddys mark spot on. their hunting up ability has impressed me. i think they are a good mix to a whippet/grey or greyhound. seen some cracking beddy whippets for ferreting/mooching dogs cant compare these to a whippet as i have never seen one work. there are large beddys about with good blood in them when put to the above..what are most beddys pure shit or sub standard at?if you mean earth work im not the man to answer was never my game. but as stated there are beddys with good blood in them going back years. that would have the ability to produce a decent lurcher. It's so nice to read a topic where people know what there talking about I had grews x bedlinton back in the 70s, couldn't fault them for my type of mooching Quote Link to post
Guest storm70 Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 Darbo your right but il Anwser your question for I've used and dug to proper bedlingtons fr 30 years below ground on all quarry my old bedxwhippet has been dug to aswell I can honesly say that o think a good bedxwhippet is a superior animal to a Bedxgrey whith the right whippet there will be bull blood in there I honesly wouldent keep just a bushing bedlington a right bedlington was a warrior a dog whith a heart like a lion I have put alote of stuff to bed way my wee bitch she's going on 10 now and I can honesly say it's done its fair share and then more and the pure stuff was worked properly not saying that there Isent others but I think I've had a very good few over the years that I no ware they have came from worker to worker proper earth dogs and prop not many ever owned a proper earth dog running d Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 a good beddy will add to the mix good nose,stamina,determination decent feet thicker skin.a reduction in size when put to a greyhound.fast for a terrier also a agile dog in its own right. if your quarry is rabbits there are enough good strong beddys around to produce good lurchers. speed is not everything.i have seen beddy lurchers work over a 26 year period and seen some belters. does the beddy have to be a earth dog to produce a ferreting/mooching/lamping dog?i have seen beddys mark spot on. their hunting up ability has impressed me. i think they are a good mix to a whippet/grey or greyhound. seen some cracking beddy whippets for ferreting/mooching dogs cant compare these to a whippet as i have never seen one work. there are large beddys about with good blood in them when put to the above..what are most beddys pure shit or sub standard at?if you mean earth work im not the man to answer was never my game. but as stated there are beddys with good blood in them going back years. that would have the ability to produce a decent lurcher. I see what you are saying mate, but looking at a beddy x whip (as bred today) in comparisson to a (decent) pure whip - to me there doesn't seem to be a 'huge' difference. Especially when it comes to nose, stamina, determination, grit etc. The only real advantage is that it gives the thicker skin, and takes the edge off the speed, leading to less accidents. As i said, other than that, i can't see that there is much improvement by breeding in bushing beddy blood. Same as Greyhounds, a good one will take all quarry and hunt like a demon, it's just that they break a bit easy, so adding beddy, solves this a bit. Now adding, good, solid, tested, digging, beddy blood to a greyhound, i can see it making a great vermin dog and adding more than thick skin. Quote Link to post
hedz31 1,308 Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 There are always a lot of folk that talk about their good beddy lurchers. . . . . Now maybe i'm going to get shot down over this, but where are all the top class working beddys that they are being bred from, cos i was under the impression that most of the beddys about were pure shit or sub standard at best (seen a few good ones though, coco on here looks like he has a pair of crackers). I reckon most of these good beddy greys and whips.. . .. the quality of the dog comes from the greyhound or whippet used (which people massivly under estimate) and the beddy is just giving it a bit of a thicker coat etc and making them a bit less accident prone etc. Ive said that dozens of times on here and still it always gets swept under the rug so to speak no bedlington lurcher owners ever come on and say where the beddy blood is from they all go strangely quiet Quote Link to post
Guest storm70 Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 You can sweep my feet anyday I worked 5 gens of pures and dug to every1 good bedlingtons are like hens teeth now and agree whith yr xbread theory I no ware mine game from miners bedlingtons to miners whippets dogs that pulled there wait on many a dig never backed off there is nothing better than seeing purebread dogs doing there job that's what the games about testing the dogs to the limit the good will live the weak won't atb Quote Link to post
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