old timer123 367 Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 ]it was a bit of a joke pal an a forgot your the steroid oricle arent ye get a grip pal ffs.... an one last thing yet to see suss an decca fail on any man if its the genuine article .... an yes theres risks just like any drug so do ye homework would be my advice to anyone thinking of going on a roid course I could get super duper scientific with you now and come out with a big bunch of researched evidence and common sense theory based on succesful experience..........but i think it would be wasted on you.....arent you the same wind up merchant who was giving off about how people who go to work are mugs and should sit on their arse collecting dole cheques like you do..........some folk are worthy of debating subjects with.....and some are not ye dont have to get scientific mate ive all ready done me home work bud as a said know 4 gym owners know some lads who compete an also know lads that have written books on juice use so no need you wouldnt tell me anything i dont all ready know an yes im a mug an im not worth debating with cheers for reply though mate atvb pal o t Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,217 Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 (edited) ye dont have to get scientific mate ive all ready done me home work bud as a said know 4 gym owners know some lads who compete an also know lads that have written books on juice use so no need you wouldnt tell me anything i dont all ready know an yes im a mug an im not worth debating with cheers for reply though mate atvb pal o t Ive just read my last reply back mate and it dont look good,id like to offer my apologies for the comments about being on the dole etc.....who am i to judge any man....i was being a prick and im sorry about that. However saying steroids make you more aggressive meaning you become a better fighter......and saying steroids make your jaw stronger meaning you can take a better punch.....is just silly.....its a subject way too deep to get into from a keyboard,but the science of steroids is something i didnt jump into without a lot of research,study and questions and like most things with greater technology comes the need for greater understanding......i learned a lot off Mick Hart back years ago who is what id consider a real steroid guru and been in the game a long time.....but of course like anything else none of us ever stop learning. Anyway apologies for my manners Edited November 24, 2011 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,217 Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 (edited) old timmer, if i remember correctly tha calcium deposits your on about,, are usualy the result of H.G.H,, human growth hormone,, not steroids. two entirly diffrent substances both actually mate The hgh argument has been raging years....strictly speaking its not a steroid ....a steroid is defined as several fat soluble organic compounds .....whereas hgh is a chemical hormone consisting of carbon atoms,nitrogen atoms,hydrogen atoms,oxygen atoms and all this other bollocks.....like test its still extremely anabolic but strengthens tendons and tissue wheras test strengthens skeletal muscle ( androgen receptors ) For want of a better explannation and keeping things simple.....hgh is marijuana and steroids is heroin ............performance enhancer yes,steroid no. Edited November 24, 2011 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
old timer123 367 Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 ye dont have to get scientific mate ive all ready done me home work bud as a said know 4 gym owners know some lads who compete an also know lads that have written books on juice use so no need you wouldnt tell me anything i dont all ready know an yes im a mug an im not worth debating with cheers for reply though mate atvb pal o t Ive just read my last reply back mate and it dont look good,id like to offer my apologies for the comments about being on the dole etc.....who am i to judge any man....i was being a prick and im sorry about that. However saying steroids make you more aggressive meaning you become a better fighter......and saying steroids make your jaw stronger meaning you can take a better punch.....is just silly.....its a subject way too deep to get into from a keyboard,but the science of steroids is something i didnt jump into without a lot of research,study and questions and like most things with greater technology comes the need for greater understanding......i learned a lot off Mick Hart back years ago who is what id consider a real steroid guru and been in the game a long time.....but of course like anything else none of us ever stop learning. Anyway apologies for my manners gnash ive a funny feeling a know you... an im a firm beleiver that person on juice would be more of a better fighter due to higher test levels more aggression that goes hand in hand with juice an some one on`` would certainly be more inclined to fight... as for the jaw then yes maybe it wouldnt be harder an maybe they wouldnt be able to take a punch better but im a firm beleiver that the extra weight on the face would cushion the blow so my theory would be slightly right lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,217 Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 (edited) Cushions the face .....and i just dont see how more aggression equates to a better fighter at all......boxing is the art of controlled aggression,too much of it is just as bad as not enough.....and as regards " would be more inclined to fight "....i go back to the Julian Clarey thing again. We,ll just agree we dont agree mate Edited November 24, 2011 by gnasher16 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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