old timer123 367 Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 a dog should never be culled, if it wont do the job you want it to do then dont pass it on as a worker, be honest or pass it to a loving pet home. hate the wat dogs get treated these days GRRRR....... Well thats your opinion, in mine if more people culled there would be a lot less in rescue centres, dumped, sold on the merry go round and alot less shit out there if you didnt cull your season would be full of bunnys :laugh: Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted November 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 If ye buy a pup or adult dog for a specific task and it cant fulfil that task its a failure and no good to ye simples,if the dog can fulfil other tasks for somebody else and there happy with it fair enough but its a failure in what ye wanted,to many are passed on when they should of been culled in my opinion though thats fine aslong as you buy the correct dog to match the task in the first place, if say a lad purchased a half cross to catch hares and then realised it couldnt, would that half cross then be a failed worker extreme example i know then there the one of youve got a dog you think is bob on but then you go out with somebody else and you realise it isnt quite as good as you thought, would the dog you thought brilliant the day before then become a failed worker Quote Link to post
Plong 21 Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 Owners buying crap bred from crap is to blame for a lot of it, if you go to view a pup and are unsure about it walk away, too many people turn up to buy pups look at the bitch and sire think I don't really like those but the pup may turn out ok and get sucked in by the bloke selling the pups about how many kills he's had with them and how it jumped into the zoo and ragged a rhino about. Quote Link to post
Penda 3,341 Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 (edited) theres dogs for jobs if the dog is bred for the job you want it to do and it doesnt do it then its no good for the owner. I personaly think its either in the dog or it aint some dogs take longer to mature and get it into there head what the job is in hand but its how long the owner wants to waite til that dog atarts to do what you want it to do Edited November 11, 2011 by Penda Quote Link to post
nitestalker 28 209 Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 Ive seen some late starters turn good after a time, and most people I know are usually willing to wait, but the best dogs I know of are the ones that take to work straight away, usually needing holding back, rather than gently easing into it. i would stay clear of dogs that are slow or late starters,not saying there no good,but lifes to short to be waiting on dogs that take 2 seasons to get going agree mate if its in dem its in dem ive a bullhound x colliehound started on bunnies at 8 mths got goin left em up till jus 12 mth started charlie in company on the 1st couple then all on his own no prob since hav 2 4 mth old pups here same breeding different father if they dont make grade bye bye and they wont be passed around end of all parents in the make up of my lurchers 100% serious grafters still no gaurantee atb 1 Quote Link to post
collie/grey 238 Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 I know one thing's for sure and that is that i'll not get a pup in from non tested parents ever again, and not take peoples word for it but see the parents working beforehand. from what i hear though your entering early an expecting miracles You think that im bothered what your hearing, let people talk, it's all most people are good at Quote Link to post
Boss-Hog 270 Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 dogs that dont do what theyre bred 4 are best pts thats only way 3 Quote Link to post
Guest joball Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 my pup that I bred is Abit mental wants to kill everything and loves the sharp end of things as you'd tell buy looking at his face, well some people would just keep letting the pup go like a seasoned pro and not hold them back. I could easily give him to much and ruin him, but he's showing to much potential to fuk him up. Why people expect pups to be seasoned pro's baffles me. like i said cull a!nd breed for number one maybe pass a few on to trusted mates, that way you know most your pups will make the grade and be treated and entered properly. 2 Quote Link to post
old timer123 367 Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 I know one thing's for sure and that is that i'll not get a pup in from non tested parents ever again, and not take peoples word for it but see the parents working beforehand. from what i hear though your entering early an expecting miracles You think that im bothered what your hearing, let people talk, it's all most people are good at so its true then lol Quote Link to post
cairnsy22 3 Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 he was from hertfordshire thats all i know......did you buy a dog paulus??? a dog is never a failer in [bANNED TEXT] owners eyes,as long as meets the standered of the owner,horse for course atb cairnsy Quote Link to post
reddawn 2,173 Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 my pup that I bred is Abit mental wants to kill everything and loves the sharp end of things as you'd tell buy looking at his face, well some people would just keep letting the pup go like a seasoned pro and not hold them back. I could easily give him to much and ruin him, but he's showing to much potential to fuk him up. Why people expect pups to be seasoned pro's baffles me. like i said cull a!nd breed for number one maybe pass a few on to trusted mates, that way you know most your pups will make the grade and be treated and entered properly. Quote Link to post
bunnybasher69 56 Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 It's much easier for someone to blame the dog than take a look at what they did wrong and admit they made a mistake. Hopefully they have learned from their mistake so they don't ruin another dog. I wouldn't sell a pup to someone I know ruined a dog. Quote Link to post
wi11ow 2,657 Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 its all down to stanards and what level you expect dogs to catch game at some people great dogs are another mans average but who ever picks the shit up and feeds them if they think thats ok DOWN TO THEM 2 Quote Link to post
reddawn 2,173 Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 work load has a big part to play imo, if you only out once a week a half hearted dog wouldnt seem so bad but if you out most days or nites or even days an nites then a dog that aint doing its job well just becomes a pain in the arse, if you clean its shite up, feed an work the dog, then surely its upto you if the dog has failed to make your grade, but 1 mans rubbish is another mans treasure lol 2 Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 a dog should never be culled, if it wont do the job you want it to do then dont pass it on as a worker, be honest or pass it to a loving pet home. hate the wat dogs get treated these days GRRRR....... Well thats your opinion, in mine if more people culled there would be a lot less in rescue centres, dumped, sold on the merry go round and alot less shit out there If we could only apply that to owners as well as the dog maybe things would get better. Patience is sadly lacking in the majority of lurcher owners. I've never understood why folk would take on an adult dog before rearing a pup as always there's the exception to the rule but these are few and far between. In my view there's more bad owners than bad dogs. Lurchers are meant to be versatile I think if your only into quarry that fights back then maybe a lurcher isn't the right dog for you and should consider shooting as a hobby. 3 Quote Link to post
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