skycat 6,173 Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Fair point Ian: though after visiting areas where there are a lot of hares, and seeing the results of careless shooting all too often (finding hares dying with half their faces blown away or legs shattered) I probably have a rather jaundiced view of this activity. IMO any animal deserves a quick death: sorry, just come back from a particularly nasty place where the night shooters obviously don't have any respect. Quote Link to post
airarmstx200 8 Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 well done nice shooting. Quote Link to post
Lab 10,979 Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Fair point Ian: though after visiting areas where there are a lot of hares, and seeing the results of careless shooting all too often (finding hares dying with half their faces blown away or legs shattered) I probably have a rather jaundiced view of this activity. IMO any animal deserves a quick death: sorry, just come back from a particularly nasty place where the night shooters obviously don't have any respect. Before pointing the finger at shooters go and have a search for the the thread where quite a few 'dog men' were happy to throw hares in the ditch after they run them...!! Quote Link to post
RossM 8,121 Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Fair point Ian: though after visiting areas where there are a lot of hares, and seeing the results of careless shooting all too often (finding hares dying with half their faces blown away or legs shattered) I probably have a rather jaundiced view of this activity. IMO any animal deserves a quick death: sorry, just come back from a particularly nasty place where the night shooters obviously don't have any respect. Before pointing the finger at shooters go and have a search for the the thread where quite a few 'dog men' were happy to throw hares in the ditch after they run them...!! and did they or did they not get a hammering on here from the real real dogmen condoning what they do? people from all walks of life? dont you get shooters who shoot and leave where they shot? yes!! seen it before! they say shooting is the most humane way to dispach, correct if they get a kill shot, what if they just wound or maime? with a dog it either gets it or it doesnt no wounding and getting away. but at the end of the day one form is legal the other is not end off, edited to say thread title imo is titled to get a rise out of the dog lads, why not just leave it as "Another mixed bag" and this could have probably been avoided but seems that SOME shooters like to make as many oppertunities to preach to dog lads as possible and tell them how high and mighty they are!! 1 Quote Link to post
Lab 10,979 Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Fair point Ian: though after visiting areas where there are a lot of hares, and seeing the results of careless shooting all too often (finding hares dying with half their faces blown away or legs shattered) I probably have a rather jaundiced view of this activity. IMO any animal deserves a quick death: sorry, just come back from a particularly nasty place where the night shooters obviously don't have any respect. Before pointing the finger at shooters go and have a search for the the thread where quite a few 'dog men' were happy to throw hares in the ditch after they run them...!! and did they or did they not get a hammering on here from the real real dogmen condoning what they do? people from all walks of life? dont you get shooters who shoot and leave where they shot? yes!! seen it before! they say shooting is the most humane way to dispach, correct if they get a kill shot, what if they just wound or maime? with a dog it either gets it or it doesnt no wounding and getting away. but at the end of the day one form is legal the other is not end off, edited to say thread title imo is titled to get a rise out of the dog lads, why not just leave it as "Another mixed bag" and this could have probably been avoided but seems that SOME shooters like to make as many oppertunities to preach to dog lads as possible and tell them how high and mighty they are!! Have a dig if you like mate but you know fine well on here that i see the 2 points of view. I spoke up when hares got ditched cause i think its a serious lack of respect and i've waited for someone to have a go at shooters over shooting hares after that "ditching hares" thread pish!! Dont agree with shooting them myself really but i certainly wouldn't faulty anyone that did, its a personal reason for myself and thats that.... Quote Link to post
skycat 6,173 Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 There is one thing I don't understand about shooting photos on forums. If a dog man put up a photo of a dead animal with its guts hanging out, they would be slaughtered on the internet, so how come it is acceptable to put photos of such things if the animal has been shot? I'm genuinely not having a go here, but I fail to understand how one is acceptable, the other is not. Edited to add: IMO photos of dead animals with guts hanging out or otherwise mangled and very bloody, is not acceptable on any open forum, no matter how the animal was killed. IMO it shows all hunters, shooters or dog men, in a bad light, as though that person was somehow loving the blood and gore. 3 Quote Link to post
RossM 8,121 Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Fair point Ian: though after visiting areas where there are a lot of hares, and seeing the results of careless shooting all too often (finding hares dying with half their faces blown away or legs shattered) I probably have a rather jaundiced view of this activity. IMO any animal deserves a quick death: sorry, just come back from a particularly nasty place where the night shooters obviously don't have any respect. Before pointing the finger at shooters go and have a search for the the thread where quite a few 'dog men' were happy to throw hares in the ditch after they run them...!! and did they or did they not get a hammering on here from the real real dogmen condoning what they do? people from all walks of life? dont you get shooters who shoot and leave where they shot? yes!! seen it before! they say shooting is the most humane way to dispach, correct if they get a kill shot, what if they just wound or maime? with a dog it either gets it or it doesnt no wounding and getting away. but at the end of the day one form is legal the other is not end off, edited to say thread title imo is titled to get a rise out of the dog lads, why not just leave it as "Another mixed bag" and this could have probably been avoided but seems that SOME shooters like to make as many oppertunities to preach to dog lads as possible and tell them how high and mighty they are!! Have a dig if you like mate but you know fine well on here that i see the 2 points of view. I spoke up when hares got ditched cause i think its a serious lack of respect and i've waited for someone to have a go at shooters over shooting hares after that "ditching hares" thread pish!! Dont agree with shooting them myself really but i certainly wouldn't faulty anyone that did, its a personal reason for myself and thats that.... not a dig at all mate, just hate to see all dogmen tarred with the same brush and it always ends up the same old shite over and over, as said previous, theres dogmen and theres dogmen as there is shooters and there are shooters.... Quote Link to post
Lab 10,979 Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Fair point Ian: though after visiting areas where there are a lot of hares, and seeing the results of careless shooting all too often (finding hares dying with half their faces blown away or legs shattered) I probably have a rather jaundiced view of this activity. IMO any animal deserves a quick death: sorry, just come back from a particularly nasty place where the night shooters obviously don't have any respect. Before pointing the finger at shooters go and have a search for the the thread where quite a few 'dog men' were happy to throw hares in the ditch after they run them...!! and did they or did they not get a hammering on here from the real real dogmen condoning what they do? people from all walks of life? dont you get shooters who shoot and leave where they shot? yes!! seen it before! they say shooting is the most humane way to dispach, correct if they get a kill shot, what if they just wound or maime? with a dog it either gets it or it doesnt no wounding and getting away. but at the end of the day one form is legal the other is not end off, edited to say thread title imo is titled to get a rise out of the dog lads, why not just leave it as "Another mixed bag" and this could have probably been avoided but seems that SOME shooters like to make as many oppertunities to preach to dog lads as possible and tell them how high and mighty they are!! Have a dig if you like mate but you know fine well on here that i see the 2 points of view. I spoke up when hares got ditched cause i think its a serious lack of respect and i've waited for someone to have a go at shooters over shooting hares after that "ditching hares" thread pish!! Dont agree with shooting them myself really but i certainly wouldn't faulty anyone that did, its a personal reason for myself and thats that.... not a dig at all mate, just hate to see all dogmen tarred with the same brush and it always ends up the same old shite over and over, as said previous, theres dogmen and theres dogmen as there is shooters and there are shooters.... Well Skycat started it so...............na na nana na........... Quote Link to post
IanB 0 Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Fair point Ian: though after visiting areas where there are a lot of hares, and seeing the results of careless shooting all too often (finding hares dying with half their faces blown away or legs shattered) I probably have a rather jaundiced view of this activity. IMO any animal deserves a quick death: sorry, just come back from a particularly nasty place where the night shooters obviously don't have any respect. There is one thing I don't understand about shooting photos on forums. If a dog man put up a photo of a dead animal with its guts hanging out, they would be slaughtered on the internet, so how come it is acceptable to put photos of such things if the animal has been shot? I'm genuinely not having a go here, but I fail to understand how one is acceptable, the other is not. Edited to add: IMO photos of dead animals with guts hanging out or otherwise mangled and very bloody, is not acceptable on any open forum, no matter how the animal was killed. IMO it shows all hunters, shooters or dog men, in a bad light, as though that person was somehow loving the blood and gore. I agree some people like the gore shots, even if the animal didn't feel a thing... Its not good advertising the fact openly, its just bad taste.. But regarding hares being found with legs off and thrown to the side,etc... I've seen a lot lot worse on here and around the country ... You just think of the amount who LIKE to torture animals, there not hunters there idiots, they won't dispatch a fox or whatever else cleanly, after a dig, they want a fight out of them..... They'll slip numerous dogs on one hare or lamp them with multiple dogs, they'll slip numerous dogs on a fox, deer or whatever else, torture it and leave it were it is, hung on wire fences or in the middle of fields, then make a video of it and put it on youtube.. These are bad elements, like in shooting, theres good and bad in all walks, Thankfully theres lots of good guys out there, who show respect and do everything humanely.. It not all rosy. Just so people don't get me wrong here, I go out shooting and with terriers and lurchers..... Do the job properly, stay away from the idiots who HAVE ruined all fieldsports for us and the future generations, show what you hunt respect.. Its easy to drive a rift.. Whats that old saying together we stand divided we fall...well we just keep falling... Quote Link to post
torchey 1,328 Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 And that's one of the reasons there are fewer hares about in certain areas of England nowadays: quite a few times I've found rifled hares on my land: just left, because the shooter shot them from over the boundary of his permission and just left them. They're not even a pest round my way, so why do it? People go on about kill hungry dog men, but there's more than a few shooters who are just the same: killing for the sake of it. Well there's idiots involved everywhere penny IF they are not causing a problem and the landowner doesn't want them removing.. Nothing wrong with what the lads have done, I cannot see how a hare is any different to another animal being shot...Personally I'll be knocking them down soon and some lucky punter sat at home or in a restaurant will be filling his face with a fine organic meal...They need controlling just like any other animal, other suggestions to control numbers? Would people prefer snaring... Were talking control here, not a sporting day out.. If you only shoot 1 hare,doesn,t seem to me theres that many there to need controlling Quote Link to post
MR TEA POT 1,287 Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 It says in the title "HARE",Its in the shooting section so its a sfae bet the hares been shot,if you dont like hares beening shot dont read the post with the word hare in the title simple as that. Quote Link to post
RossM 8,121 Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 It says in the title "HARE",Its in the shooting section so its a sfae bet the hares been shot,if you dont like hares beening shot dont read the post with the word hare in the title simple as that. correct but why has he put "graphic hare pic" in the title? could he not have just left it at as "another mixed bag"? sure you would still get dog lads coming on with the not right speech, but adding hare in the title is just a ploy to get the lurcher lads to come on here and give the "hares should not be shot" speech and then once again have some dog lads come on and put the sport to bad press and the shooters can give it we are the ones within the law blah blah blah..... we are amazing speech, good shooting and the hare pic isnt as graphic as either of the fox shots so i stand by original thought on the matter, imo it has been titled as to get a rise out of the lurcher/dog men......... Quote Link to post
MR TEA POT 1,287 Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 It says in the title "HARE",Its in the shooting section so its a sfae bet the hares been shot,if you dont like hares beening shot dont read the post with the word hare in the title simple as that. correct but why has he put "graphic hare pic" in the title? could he not have just left it at as "another mixed bag"? sure you would still get dog lads coming on with the not right speech, but adding hare in the title is just a ploy to get the lurcher lads to come on here and give the "hares should not be shot" speech and then once again have some dog lads come on and put the sport to bad press and the shooters can give it we are the ones within the law blah blah blah..... we are amazing speech, good shooting and the hare pic isnt as graphic as either of the fox shots so i stand by original thought on the matter, imo it has been titled as to get a rise out of the lurcher/dog men......... True but you have to look at from the otherside as well he could have put it up so dogmen DONT look at it,i know some still will,weather he added the word hare to get a rise out of the dogmen they didnt have to bite, only the poster can say why.........dont know why he put graphic though seen more blood on a tampax Quote Link to post
RossM 8,121 Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 It says in the title "HARE",Its in the shooting section so its a sfae bet the hares been shot,if you dont like hares beening shot dont read the post with the word hare in the title simple as that. correct but why has he put "graphic hare pic" in the title? could he not have just left it at as "another mixed bag"? sure you would still get dog lads coming on with the not right speech, but adding hare in the title is just a ploy to get the lurcher lads to come on here and give the "hares should not be shot" speech and then once again have some dog lads come on and put the sport to bad press and the shooters can give it we are the ones within the law blah blah blah..... we are amazing speech, good shooting and the hare pic isnt as graphic as either of the fox shots so i stand by original thought on the matter, imo it has been titled as to get a rise out of the lurcher/dog men......... True but you have to look at from the otherside as well he could have put it up so dogmen DONT look at it, only the poster can say why.........dont know why he put graphic though seen more blood on a tampax agree it could be to say dont look, but i'm not daft and im not gonna insult you by asking you if you are, if your honest you and I both know why it was added to the title Quote Link to post
MR TEA POT 1,287 Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Tbh he possibly did put it up to wind folks up,but surely thats upto him its his post,if folks didnt take the bait he wouldnt bother. Quote Link to post
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