thomashyne 54 Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 you never see one for sale whys that stick a few pics up lads lazy i hear your ok up holes in ireland speedi would never sell you Quote Link to post
LAZYBSTARD 225 Posted November 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 you never see one for sale whys that stick a few pics up lads lazy i hear your ok up holes in ireland speedi would never sell you whats that mean thomas you stick to your point an slip retard an leave the real hunting to the men 1 Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 I've had a little read of this thread, and there has been some good stuff written, but also some pure shite. A lot of people take dogs ferreting, dogs that can chase and catch a bolting rabbit. Well, in my eyes that isn't a ferreting dog, it's just a running dog you take out with the ferrets. A good ferreting dog should do many things, including, hunting up land to put rabbits to ground and to find warrens. Mark the warrens that are occupied, and the holes by which the rabbits are nearest. Gaurd the holes while the net are being layed. Be respectful of the nets, the ferrets etc. Position themselves right in order to cover certain areas, and out of the way of the hole mouths. Follow the action underground, listen, stay calm etc. Hold rabbits in nets that are in difficult places to get to. Release the rabbit when needed and gaurd the now unetted hole, while you sort out the rabbit / net. Catch those that miss the net. Perhaps indicate where a kill has been made underground. Let you know if the ferrets have come up out of your sight. Work with long nets etc if needed. And the list goes on . . . . . As for the comment that a ferreted rabbit is easier to catch than on the lamp. Whoever said that must be bolting them out of hedges across big open fields, because,watching a dog fly through woodland, lots of cover, down mountainsides etc, it looks a lot harder than running a rabbit in the beam in the open. Daytime ferreting and mooching, you really get to see the dog use it's brain and all it's senses. For the solo ferreter they are an invaluble tool. I have not been ferreting in a long time without a dog, and i don't think i would do it again. Oh, and if it's going to be a ferreting dog, i'm a fan of getting them out as soon as possible. Mine - Probably the best ferreting dog i have ever seen work (not mine) - Learning young - 1 Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 good pic, i think a good ferreting dog , has to be a bit more sharper than lamping as well rabbs dont travel far in daylite ,as i say many times bolting rabbs is sport for kings next to the hare roe when it was all legal, had some great places with open burries cover and some great fun ,just apity good bits for rabbits getting scarcer but youll always pic half adozen up , Quote Link to post
lifelong cumbrian 1,829 Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 I've had a little read of this thread, and there has been some good stuff written, but also some pure shite. A lot of people take dogs ferreting, dogs that can chase and catch a bolting rabbit. Well, in my eyes that isn't a ferreting dog, it's just a running dog you take out with the ferrets. A good ferreting dog should do many things, including, hunting up land to put rabbits to ground and to find warrens. Mark the warrens that are occupied, and the holes by which the rabbits are nearest. Gaurd the holes while the net are being layed. Be respectful of the nets, the ferrets etc. Position themselves right in order to cover certain areas, and out of the way of the hole mouths. Follow the action underground, listen, stay calm etc. Hold rabbits in nets that are in difficult places to get to. Release the rabbit when needed and gaurd the now unetted hole, while you sort out the rabbit / net. Catch those that miss the net. Perhaps indicate where a kill has been made underground. Let you know if the ferrets have come up out of your sight. Work with long nets etc if needed. And the list goes on . . . . . As for the comment that a ferreted rabbit is easier to catch than on the lamp. Whoever said that must be bolting them out of hedges across big open fields, because,watching a dog fly through woodland, lots of cover, down mountainsides etc, it looks a lot harder than running a rabbit in the beam in the open. Daytime ferreting and mooching, you really get to see the dog use it's brain and all it's senses. For the solo ferreter they are an invaluble tool. I have not been ferreting in a long time without a dog, and i don't think i would do it again. Oh, and if it's going to be a ferreting dog, i'm a fan of getting them out as soon as possible. Mine - Probably the best ferreting dog i have ever seen work (not mine) - Learning young - Your opinion of a good ferreting dog is the same as mine. I will put all the time and effort i can into making my young bitch the best she can be. And that is the only way to achive that sort of success, the dog also needs to have a bit of natural talent. 1 Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 just about crying there, go out youre self and learn as we done as kids or pay to go on a hunting course ill take you for payment ,as times precious , you learn alot in a day more than on a comp had hawkers out last week had a good day Fecking get over yourself matt a young lad asking for a day out and you want to charge him your whats wrong in the dog world these days you have an over inflated opinion of yourself and everything to do with hunting. Its f*****g boring now I know its hard for you but if your nothing constructive to say sometimes its better to shut the f**k up. 5 Quote Link to post
leec 132 Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 i think feet are inportant in a ferreting dog, esp were i ferret, with a decent dog and a couple dozen nets an a quickset you save alot of time and if you an the dog now your job you wont miss nothing, we had 76 out of 77 on the weekend, Quote Link to post
Sirius 1,391 Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 (edited) Some good advice on this thread tomo and socks! Alot goes into a ferreting dog. One hell of a lot of skills need to be all there and this takes work and patience for both dog and owner. There is alot less to learn to lamp IMO and many people's standards are low for this too, working without a slip, run on command, good retrieve,etc etc are the basics. Edited November 10, 2011 by Sirius Quote Link to post
danny300 2,240 Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 great read lads keep it up whin you should be ashamed of charging young lad only greedy fools do that. take him out and let him learn for free thats how alot of us learned cheers danny 5 Quote Link to post
robert michem 314 Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 (edited) YOU NEVER SEE ANY GOOD DOGS FOR SALE NO MATTER WHAT THEY ARE./////// WENT THE OTHER DAY WITH A CHAP WHO I NO MICK..,, THATS WHAT I CALL A FERRETING DOG,,, IT MARKS WELL,, IT TELL YOU IFF THERES RABBITS IN THE SET// WHEN YOU START LIFTING NETS, IFF FERRETS AV LEFT OR NOT FOUND, THE ODD RABBIT CLOSE TO A BOLT HOLE//, IFF NOT SO IT LEAVES THE SET AND ITS LIKE THE DOG HIS WALKING ON BROKEN CLASS, THEN GIVES YOU EYE CONTACT, LIKE A CHAP GIVEING YOU A DIRTY LOOK,, THEY DEFFO BE RABBITS AT HOME//, IFF THE DOG CATCHERS ON THE DAY ,, ITS A BONUS,,, SO WHAT.. THE MAIN THING TO ME HIS WHAT INFO ITS GIVEING YOU.. ON THE DAY,,, THATS WHAT A FERRETING DOG SHUD DO,,, Edited November 10, 2011 by robert michem 2 Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 undisputed what i do is my bizness not yours ,days of me giving lots of freebies hunting etc long gone , unless close freinds and family ,you go pheasant shooting grouse shooting salmon fishing it costs something if go coursing i pay farmer pre ban , if everybody gives a little then it makes the world go round ,i had to pay for my learning as akid hunting or going to the states etc , or lobster licence ,so why take strangers out for a freebee ,you go hawking days you pay so pay alittle keeps farmers sweet and life goes on , Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 i think a good ferreting dog has to have all the skills of a collie, whippet x grew , in one , fast agile . quite sensible , not to rash as rabbits are tricky beggars ,and be good with there mouths as they only get one chance ps undisputed you take him ut as you have plenty to tell others how to run there affairs or life Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 undisputed what i do is my bizness not yours ,days of me giving lots of freebies hunting etc long gone , unless close freinds and family ,you go pheasant shooting grouse shooting salmon fishing it costs something if go coursing i pay farmer pre ban , if everybody gives a little then it makes the world go round ,i had to pay for my learning as akid hunting or going to the states etc , or lobster licence ,so why take strangers out for a freebee ,you go hawking days you pay so pay alittle keeps farmers sweet and life goes on , Full of shite you've invited a few folk up to yours recently and did it free gratis......and whoever you paid for your learning you should give them a call and ask for a rebate. Your right it has nowt to do with me what you do but given this is an open forum and your posting your usual bullshit I reserve to right to comment you don't like it don't post......simples! Quote Link to post
iceman001979 1,316 Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 Would people agree or disagree that the ferreting dog as more to learn in a hunting scene then any other type off work for a lucher???? Quote Link to post
Sirius 1,391 Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 (edited) Would people agree or disagree that the ferreting dog as more to learn in a hunting scene then any other type off work for a lucher???? Pretty well YES, a greater array of skills are needed to be a top class ferreting dog. Careful early session are essential IMO Edited November 11, 2011 by Sirius Quote Link to post
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