flushing hare into a gate net..is it legal

[johnnywippet 2]

I can't work out a few details of the legalities from hunting from the 2004 act.

 

here are my questions..

 

1. Is it legal to net hares using a gate net?

 

2. Is it legal to flush a hare into a gate net using one dog?

 

Thanks

 

John

[paulus 26]

1) yes as long as you own or have the landowners permision

2) yes as long as your using the dog/dogs (but not more than 2) for flushing and not hunting

 

this is only my interpretation of the act

[salukiman 28]

1) yes as long as you own or have the landowners permision

2) yes as long as your using the dog/dogs (but not more than 2) for flushing and not hunting

 

this is only my interpretation of the act

 

i think this is correct but raises another question how many steps is flushing and when does flushing become corsing and another question if we cant answer it do the old bill know the answer

[paulus 26]

1) yes as long as you own or have the landowners permision

2) yes as long as your using the dog/dogs (but not more than 2) for flushing and not hunting

 

this is only my interpretation of the act

 

i think this is correct but raises another question how many steps is flushing and when does flushing become corsing and another question if we cant answer it do the old bill know the answer

if youve got a net set then you would be flushing, the same as if your`ve got a gun. but if you have neither and you just had the dog/dogs then you would be hunting.

[salukiman 28]

a good answer paulis and in theory i think you would be correct, your intentions backed up by your actions ( flushing and net or gun ) but what do you think would happen if when the quarry does a number on you takes a direction you havent acounted for and your dogs persues ,as i think most would .if this was seen a crime ( if you can call it that ) would you be done although you have taken reasonable steps showing you initial intentions i think the old bill would lift you any way

[johnnywippet 2]

hmm tricky one. good point salukiman and what if the dog caught the hare before it hit the net.

This may be viewed as coursing by trying on the 'flushing game' loop hole.

Simply putting up a net means does not mean in the eyes of the law you are not coursing.

 

I'm not trying to get around the act. I really do want to flush hares into a gate net with my whippet

who just does not have the speed to catch a hare anyway.

 

Guess i'll be risking it. I have full permissions from the landowner to hunt rabbit by day and night and they have agreed to me trying gates nets for hares. But I don't want any tricky situations that may jeopardize this arragement.

[chartpolski 23,147]

Are you netting these hares for a purpose, i.e. tagging, relocating, etc? Or are you clearing the land for the farmer, or just taking one or two for the pot ? Unless you can count on the full backing of the landowner/farmer, I think the police would still try to do you for coursing, wether netting is legal or not.

 

Cheers.

Edited November 9, 2011 by chartpolski

[salukiman 28]

had a thought if you are doing a fair bit of land why not set up your net in a location that can be driven to and use like a beeting line type thing cant see how that can be taken out of context by the plod

[dogger 100]

why not phone your local police and ask them the question and keep yourself within the law

[ftm 3,357]

i would like to know your intentions with netted hares as well mate would like to think you were relocating them rather than knacking them but its your permission and you do what you need to do atb billy

[Simoman 110]

why not phone your local police and ask them the question and keep yourself within the law

 

 

I'd bet your left testicle they couldn't give you a straight answer.............

[juckler123 707]

Bugger the gate net get a long net down not be the first time its been done :laugh:

A great wrangle in court id reckon two dogs are allowed wouldnt even bother with a brief atvb

[paul roberts 88]

its no problem mate aslong you got permison wecatch them in l nets and g nets use my saluki greyhounds with muzels to flush them into nets then i move to other land out today had 5 ready to let go tonight great b sport

[whin 463]

jonnywhippet you gave a real truthful comment about you whippet and paul nettig thems fine netted a few as they were only going to shoot them we got 26 dry stone walls and gate openings but had to get chased in and some never gott there , there a good place in durham for netting and the borders of scotland the dales etc biggar area was good hares would come of slopes and move to grass feilds useing gates ,

[poacherman 353]

See if u relocated a few hares do u think they would stay around the area uve relocated them in or do u tgink they would travel on a bit atb john