no wonder the lurcher game is the way it is

[fast dogs 51]

[paulus 26]

If anyone who breeds dogs to sell is a peddler, can all the people hand on heart who have an issue with anyone who sells a dog, honestly say they have NEVER bought a dog... Its complete bollocks, people buy working dogs, gundogs, greyhounds, horses.. there not all given away... For some reason there seems to be this weird circle of people that have superb working dogs and never breed them and if they do they give them away...but they've never bought one neither... Yeh ok.

 

Whats important, not the fact a dog is free or cost a grand..Whats important is the owner actually puts time into the dog and cares for it properly when at home and working. Theres too many idiots get dogs, that treat them like shit, feed them shit, take them out in bad condition or with injuries and then fling them in some scabby draughty wet kennel till the next time they decide to go out....Yes theres plenty..Same as theres plenty of goons passing dogs from pillar to post EVERY month, dont slate someone breeding a litter and selling them, as long as they go to genuine people, thats what I'd be worried about..

some truth there, but the bit your missing the same as most of the rest of the lads is, its not about this litter, that peddler, he said she said. its about getting out there, and you and the dog/dogs enjoying it. if you dont enjoy it then your in the wrong game. its a way of life, a sport, a hobby. unfortunatly the dog world is full of lads who always want to be bigger and better than anyone else and like to let the world know it, when they come across something/someone better than them. then the shit stirring slagging starts. When it gets to the subject of pups it all goes tits up, its a loose,loose situation if you sell them your a peddler if you gift them your a wannabe hero. wherever and whoever you get a pup off its only the start of the story you the owner,are responsible for the rest, alot of dogs get binned off because theres this wrong or that wrong, in truth its down to the owner we make the dogs what they become, until the day the dogs make us what we become. commitment and perserverence are two traits that are sadly lacking in todays society dog men included, its far to easy to bin the old and buy in the new just because mr x up the road has a new wonder x. these are just my thoughts and not for public viewing :laugh:

[lurcher330 2,300]

I bred a litter of whippets a few year ago,there was 5 pups in the litter and i had all intentions of keeping a bitch pup back for my self but after some thought i i decided my hunting activities were leading me to bigger game than my whippets were suited to and i all ready had 2 whippets and decided i had enough in them for some ferreting and bushing rabbits,so i gave the pup i was gona keep to a friend of mine and sold the rest.

the 1st pup i sold for 150 Euro and i went and bought 150 euro worth of advocate and milbamex wormer

the 2nd i sold i went and bought a new lamp ,i had a clue light and got a lazer light striker

and the 3rd and 4th bought that were bought together buy the same person i went out and bought a lithuim battery

so i made sure any money made on the pups was spend on the dogs or something to do with the dogs but i have used a couple of my dogs for stud and have got pups back from people for the mating and some pus were given to friends and any i sold were sold to people i knew for very little money or sometimes i just ask to drop in a bag of dog food or something.I have no bother with people selling pups once it's not just for profit and knocking out litter after litter

[whin 463]

if you breed qaulity stuff bred from qaluity parents for generaitions ,and sell them for what they are worth to you you cant ask for any more or less to me a dog is what he catches and whats in the breeding to make him worth a good some of money,i think there to many dogs bred and not enough tested to say breed or not ,, shame realy the running dogs have been in the fore more since the ban , and all and sundrie are breeding

[BULL 96]

I know some people who breed a litter when needed and literally cull any that are not accounted for but this is ok until you get freak accidents or sods law which can then see a gene pool wiped out due to lack of offspring there's also guys who breed a litter when needed and sell the excess pups nothing wrong at all with this as it brings in money and puts out dogs to the correct working homes you can keep track off hopfully and potentially introduce back into your line at a later date . We are all sat behind a pc I've said this before soon as pups a bred on here there a self rightous bunch that have a politicaly correct way of "give pups away for free" thinking , it's a very broad opinion as I've found in life people who get things for free tend to value those things much less than if they paid for them.

[WILF 47,236]

I've found in life people who get things for free tend to value those things much less than if they paid for them.

 

Some interesting different opinons on this thread, most of them are a good read.........I dont really agree with the above statement, imho you value something that makes you value it, wether you paid for it or not just dont come into it.

As I said, jmho.

[poacher3161 1,766]

I've found in life people who get things for free tend to value those things much less than if they paid for them.

 

Some interesting different opinons on this thread, most of them are a good read.........I dont really agree with the above statement, imho you value something that makes you value it, wether you paid for it or not just dont come into it.

As I said, jmho.

I dont agrre with the statement either anybody with an ounce of decency would respect some ones generousity in having a dog gifted and treat it the same no matter how much they had paid for other dogs.

[BULL 96]

Yes that maybe is correct for you or me but I was making the comparison to the people who beleave that dogs should just be gifted ,you are placing a lot of trust into people you don't know with a dog for free I agree completely if you know them but if you don't and there are pups left over I can't see anything wrong in selling them

[poacher3161 1,766]

Yes that maybe is correct for you or me but I was making the comparison to the people who beleave that dogs should just be gifted ,you are placing a lot of trust into people you don't know with a dog for free I agree completely if you know them but if you don't and there are pups left over I can't see anything wrong in selling them

Yes i agree BULL as the litter of springers i am planning just to keep the bloodlines going that i have had for over 20 years close mates if they want one will be gifted but any spare one's will be sold at a reasonable price as any tom dick or harry who i dont know would take one for nowt then sell it on to make a few ££.

[RossM 8,121]

if you breed qaulity stuff bred from qaluity parents for generaitions ,and sell them for what they are worth to you you cant ask for any more or less to me a dog is what he catches and whats in the breeding to make him worth a good some of money,i think there to many dogs bred and not enough tested to say breed or not ,, shame realy the running dogs have been in the fore more since the ban , and all and sundrie are breeding

 

 

how can you spell the same word wrong twice with completly different spelling twice?? QUALITY!!

[graham4877 1,181]

if you breed qaulity stuff bred from qaluity parents for generaitions ,and sell them for what they are worth to you you cant ask for any more or less to me a dog is what he catches and whats in the breeding to make him worth a good some of money,i think there to many dogs bred and not enough tested to say breed or not ,, shame realy the running dogs have been in the fore more since the ban , and all and sundrie are breeding

 

 

how can you spell the same word wrong twice with completly different spelling twice?? QUALITY!!

its whin your talking about here!

[black recking it 730]

my mate is happy with his john very forward puppy,s mate and they all looked well and the mother to them was in great nick for having a litter catch up soon mate atb bud

[whin 463]

bull you are correct a hundred per cent saw it myself over the years and some cry when there dog the dold comes good and they wish they never gave it away

[chartpolski 23,999]

I don't see why people should be EXPECTED to give pups away for free. If I bred a litter, they would be for myself, family and friends, for free, but that would be my choice. I have been offered pups in the past that were well bred, for free, but wern't what I wanted or needed, so I didn't accept the offer. I also had a call from a bloke offering to place a pure Saluki with me, but his conditions were unacceptable. When I've seen a breeding I like, I have no hesitation in paying for a pup. It's great that people give pups to good working homes for free, but as I say, it shouldn't be EXPECTED.

 

Cheers.

[whin 463]

lifes not free and if you work hard you get paid so pups the same if you breed of good proven dogs then why not charge what you want for your stock farmer doent give beef away free ,i dont give big lobsters away free ,so why would people think good qaulity proven dogs are free strange people if you work hard earn your cion then you by what you want or can afford