full springers

[brenner 773]

just thought ide bump this one and put the question out..if theres anyone that has experience of using both pure springers and bushing terriers to bush for the lurchers, how do you rate a springer against a good bushing terrier, pros and cons of one over other would be good to hear tnx

[kanigra 110]

More control with a springer.I find them easier to train than a terrier.

[THE SPIRITUALIST 4]

springers hands down

[brenner 773]

ive heard it said by a few that a spaniel is hard to beat but reason i ask is, that the terriers ive seen and used ,i cant really see any room for improvement but then ive never seen an adult springer bush for rabbits . i decided to get a spaniel pup a couple of weeks ago for the simple reason that my back is f****d and having to dig to a terrier thats gone to ground isnt an option. truth be told i havnt seen a terrier pup as comfortable in heavy cover at 3 and 1/2 months as this springer is, considering he only ventured outside the back garden of the breeder when i toolk him home two weeks ago hes pretty impressive to watch. but im left thinkin. can a fully grown springer work cover as well as a small terrier that can fly through small holes in the cover with ease ? is their size a draw back or do they generally just burst through heavy cover anyway ?

[markja 51]

if you dont want to be digging the spaniel wins heads down. but saying that not every terrier goes to ground.

[mighty celt 996]

ive heard it said by a few that a spaniel is hard to beat but reason i ask is, that the terriers ive seen and used ,i cant really see any room for improvement but then ive never seen an adult springer bush for rabbits . i decided to get a spaniel pup a couple of weeks ago for the simple reason that my back is f****d and having to dig to a terrier thats gone to ground isnt an option. truth be told i havnt seen a terrier pup as comfortable in heavy cover at 3 and 1/2 months as this springer is, considering he only ventured outside the back garden of the breeder when i toolk him home two weeks ago hes pretty impressive to watch. but im left thinkin. can a fully grown springer work cover as well as a small terrier that can fly through small holes in the cover with ease ? is their size a draw back or do they generally just burst through heavy cover anyway ?

 

if there is game in their a springer will get in no matter how thight.

Edited September 25, 2012 by mighty celt

[BIG OZ 22]

ive heard it said by a few that a spaniel is hard to beat but reason i ask is, that the terriers ive seen and used ,i cant really see any room for improvement but then ive never seen an adult springer bush for rabbits . i decided to get a spaniel pup a couple of weeks ago for the simple reason that my back is f****d and having to dig to a terrier thats gone to ground isnt an option. truth be told i havnt seen a terrier pup as comfortable in heavy cover at 3 and 1/2 months as this springer is, considering he only ventured outside the back garden of the breeder when i toolk him home two weeks ago hes pretty impressive to watch. but im left thinkin. can a fully grown springer work cover as well as a small terrier that can fly through small holes in the cover with ease ? is their size a draw back or do they generally just burst through heavy cover anyway ?

spaniel ,train up on the recall or it hunt on for miles

[brenner 773]

ive heard it said by a few that a spaniel is hard to beat but reason i ask is, that the terriers ive seen and used ,i cant really see any room for improvement but then ive never seen an adult springer bush for rabbits . i decided to get a spaniel pup a couple of weeks ago for the simple reason that my back is f****d and having to dig to a terrier thats gone to ground isnt an option. truth be told i havnt seen a terrier pup as comfortable in heavy cover at 3 and 1/2 months as this springer is, considering he only ventured outside the back garden of the breeder when i toolk him home two weeks ago hes pretty impressive to watch. but im left thinkin. can a fully grown springer work cover as well as a small terrier that can fly through small holes in the cover with ease ? is their size a draw back or do they generally just burst through heavy cover anyway ?

spaniel ,train up on the recall or it hunt on for miles

yeh he was perfect on recall till the other day when he managed to grab a mixie in the cover, now hes really on fire and i can see hes goin a little deaf when im callin him in but i will sort this soon enough i think.

[brenner 773]

app. the feedback lads. and while im askin questions heres another.. has anyone had or know of anyone thats had success in encouraging a spaniel to give voice when flushing. eg. by letting the spaniel chase rabbit after rabbit out in the open that hes never gonna catch in the hope he starts to yap after it and develop the habit full time?

[poacher3161 1,766]

app. the feedback lads. and while im askin questions heres another.. has anyone had or know of anyone thats had success in encouraging a spaniel to give voice when flushing. eg. by letting the spaniel chase rabbit after rabbit out in the open that hes never gonna catch in the hope he starts to yap after it and develop the habit full time?

Heard them start yipping a few times [bANNED TEXT] they have flushed an hare in the open and being let to chase it.

[RubyTex 1,957]

Springer hands down, my mates terrier is always finding it's way underground although it does do a good job through the cover. Springers will smash through anything to find that quarry

[moonlighter 1,163]

Do springers differ much to cockers for this job? If so, in what way?

[dimmock20 278]

Cockers are smaller so can get into tighter spaces and tend to be more biddable springers take abit more training tend to be abit more head strong but once trained equally as good. I think it comes down to preference and what they are doing flushing tight cover just for rabbits cocker would be your best bet IMO, if your flushing bigger game or shooting geese and duck over water etc you would want a nice strong springer

[fay 75]

i have a cocker and its a great dog the only ting id say is that they run a lot of ground very quick she doesnt yip but thats y i bring the terrier she does absolute great dog the cocker for everyting especialy on the gun only ting is shes a bit ignarant when she gets going i dont have her on the whistle but im going to try get her on it evebn tho shes 3 lol

[moonlighter 1,163]

I've only ever seen videos on YouTube, as all my shooting friends have labs. But they do seem to cover a lot of ground very quick, which makes you wonder if they miss stuff?