paulus 26 Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 will this badger cull ever happen?????? i think not, i believe nobody in this goverment has the bollocks or backbone to put their name to whot everybody who lives and works in the countryside knows is needed. people are seriously sick of waiting now its beyond a joke, Local to me 2 farms have gone possitve twice now and have had to put up with all the restrictions that goes wit being possitive. Both these farms are 100% sure that badgers are to blame,yes they get financially compensated but that doestnt cover the emotional cost of loseing stock and all the crap you have to put up with. it would be interesting to see just how widespread this problem really is, so if you know for deffinate that an outbreak of tb has occured in your area and is almost certainly down to badgers add the location to this........ LEICESTERSHIRE theres the first Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hyperion 122 Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 Yes it will happen! hopefully! People are starting to wake up to the damage that badgers do to the countryside as well as the spread of TB! at the 1984-6 badger survey there were 50 thousand main setts, in 1997 there were 344,000 main setts!!!!!!!!! thats more than a 75% population growth in 10 years and that data is well out of date now! there are more badgers in the UK than there are foxes!!! They are over protected, hughly over populated and need to be controled, they have a massive impact on hedgehogs, ground nesting birds, woodlands, crops, dormice AND spread TB! All legal protection for badgers should be removed and they should be given a closed season say from the end of march to the first of october! http://www.linnean.org/index.php?id=podcasts on the right hand side of the screen there is a list of podcasts, clik on 17th of marchn"whats so special about british mammals" by Pat Morris the intresting stuff starts about half way through ! Cheers Hyperion Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted November 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 i saw one the other week carrying a cat it dropped it when it saw the motor and ran through the hedge i stopped after i had gone by and it came back out into the road and picked it back up and trotted off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hyperion 122 Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 They are a nightmare! pre 73 bovine TB was almost none existent in the UK! Badger numbers didn't crash because of hunting or digging ect but because of dieldrin and other chlorinated hydrocarbon pesticides Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted November 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 They are a nightmare! pre 73 bovine TB was almost none existent in the UK! Badger numbers didn't crash because of hunting or digging ect but because of dieldrin and other chlorinated hydrocarbon pesticides agree mate it was the same with the sparrowhawk 70`s early `s they were as rare as hens teeth around here, now there as common as starlings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mooch. 177 Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 They are a nightmare! pre 73 bovine TB was almost none existent in the UK! Badger numbers didn't crash because of hunting or digging ect but because of dieldrin and other chlorinated hydrocarbon pesticides agree mate it was the same with the sparrowhawk 70`s early `s they were as rare as hens teeth around here, now there as common as starlings. Which is ironic because as sparrowhawk numbers have increased so populations of small bird species have crashed. Like has been said, there are shed loads of badgers local to me but I haven't once seen a hedgehog in the 8 years I've been living here but I've seen more badgers than in my whole life previous. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jocky 198 Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 one of the farms i shoot the rats and rabbits on in tamworth, had to have one of his milkers put down about two weeks ago with TB. all the farms i shoot on have got badgers, there a pain, the rabbits are live in with them. i snared some rabbits last year, and found some all chewed up, think that was the badgers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 it would be interesting to see just how widespread this problem really is, so if you know for deffinate that an outbreak of tb has occured in your area and is almost certainly down to badgers add the location to this........ LEICESTERSHIRE theres the first Pembrokeshire.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
H U N T E R.. 13 Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 They are a nightmare! pre 73 bovine TB was almost none existent in the UK! Badger numbers didn't crash because of hunting or digging ect but because of dieldrin and other chlorinated hydrocarbon pesticides agree mate it was the same with the sparrowhawk 70`s early `s they were as rare as hens teeth around here, now there as common as starlings. Which is ironic because as sparrowhawk numbers have increased so populations of small bird species have crashed. Like has been said, there are shed loads of badgers local to me but I haven't once seen a hedgehog in the 8 years I've been living here but I've seen more badgers than in my whole life previous. Don't think spars are to blame mate they kill for food magpies kill for fun and there's a lot more of them than sparrow hawks even the government have noticed this the spar has always took the blame for that and research now shows its magpies 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mooch. 177 Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 They are a nightmare! pre 73 bovine TB was almost none existent in the UK! Badger numbers didn't crash because of hunting or digging ect but because of dieldrin and other chlorinated hydrocarbon pesticides agree mate it was the same with the sparrowhawk 70`s early `s they were as rare as hens teeth around here, now there as common as starlings. Which is ironic because as sparrowhawk numbers have increased so populations of small bird species have crashed. Like has been said, there are shed loads of badgers local to me but I haven't once seen a hedgehog in the 8 years I've been living here but I've seen more badgers than in my whole life previous. Don't think spars are to blame mate they kill for food magpies kill for fun and there's a lot more of them than sparrow hawks even the government have noticed this the spar has always took the blame for that and research now shows its magpies Atleast we're allowed to do something about the magpies, badgers and birds of prey enjoy a higher level of protection than I do! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Carraghs Gem 1,675 Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 roscommon. place is full of these disease ridden vermin. galway as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ratreeper 441 Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 How much does it cost to vaccinate a herd of cattle? Compared to having to pay out compensation for TB. Realistically you can't wipe out all the badgers that may get in contact with cattle and it wouldn't be right to persecute one of the only native animals you can find in the countryside. I think they need to be controlled, but wouldn't you need to get rid of all of the local badgers to prevent TB? which surely is more expensive than vaccinating and a bit of control? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Carraghs Gem 1,675 Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 only reason it would cost anything at all to do a cull is because the goverment pay dept idiots to carry out the cull. digging men would do it for free and keep badgersp at a sustainable level. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hyperion 122 Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 Thing is the government line is that TB jabs for cattle are too expensive and there is the possibility of cattle developing TB if they have the jab!, how they figure that out I dont know!! Fact is that there are so many badgers in the country now that people are starting to notice the damage they do, even the conservation bodies!, though I till find it hard to understand why every one is encouraged to go out and shoot as many deer as possible by the government yet they wont let people give a few badgers the good news even though the stripey little buggers are probably doing more damage to the countryside than deer are!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stewie 3,387 Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 after all the fuss about fox hunting, its stupid to even think there will ever be a cull of badgers the uk this is why i like sweden so much, they are alot more realistic to hunting and an anti is a very hard thing to find Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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