ferret100 47 Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 Foxes, polecats, mink etc and even vaccinated dogs can all carry CDV so working ferts can still pose a risk. Although many vacced ferts have died of CD, there is no way of telling how many vacced ferts may have come into contact with the virus and been immune because of being vacced. So vaccing them is still far more likely to help if you are worried. Rescues have probably been more affected with the outbreak as they constantly have to take in dumped/abused/lost ferts, so cleaning up after other peoples mess is probably why they came into contact with CDV in the 1st place.... CDV is sort of like the fert version of measles/pox. Early symptoms will be lethargy and loss of appetite, after 5-10 days rash, sticky eyes, crusting of the chin/nose, fever, diahorrea and thickening of the feet pads will usually appear amongst other symptoms. :whistling: do you ever read what you copy and paste? Y.I.S Leeview Considering I didn't copy and paste it.....no. Quote Link to post
Leeview 791 Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 Foxes, polecats, mink etc and even vaccinated dogs can all carry CDV so working ferts can still pose a risk. Although many vacced ferts have died of CD, there is no way of telling how many vacced ferts may have come into contact with the virus and been immune because of being vacced. So vaccing them is still far more likely to help if you are worried. Rescues have probably been more affected with the outbreak as they constantly have to take in dumped/abused/lost ferts, so cleaning up after other peoples mess is probably why they came into contact with CDV in the 1st place.... CDV is sort of like the fert version of measles/pox. Early symptoms will be lethargy and loss of appetite, after 5-10 days rash, sticky eyes, crusting of the chin/nose, fever, diahorrea and thickening of the feet pads will usually appear amongst other symptoms. :whistling: do you ever read what you copy and paste? Y.I.S Leeview Considering I didn't copy and paste it.....no. Really so where did you get this information from then? Y.I.S Leeview Quote Link to post
ferret100 47 Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 Foxes, polecats, mink etc and even vaccinated dogs can all carry CDV so working ferts can still pose a risk. Although many vacced ferts have died of CD, there is no way of telling how many vacced ferts may have come into contact with the virus and been immune because of being vacced. So vaccing them is still far more likely to help if you are worried. Rescues have probably been more affected with the outbreak as they constantly have to take in dumped/abused/lost ferts, so cleaning up after other peoples mess is probably why they came into contact with CDV in the 1st place.... CDV is sort of like the fert version of measles/pox. Early symptoms will be lethargy and loss of appetite, after 5-10 days rash, sticky eyes, crusting of the chin/nose, fever, diahorrea and thickening of the feet pads will usually appear amongst other symptoms. :whistling: do you ever read what you copy and paste? Y.I.S Leeview Considering I didn't copy and paste it.....no. Really so where did you get this information from then? Y.I.S Leeview Education.... Quote Link to post
Leeview 791 Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 Education not experience then Y.I.S Leeview Quote Link to post
ferret100 47 Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 Education not experience then Y.I.S Leeview Both, gladly not from my own animals though. Quote Link to post
Leeview 791 Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 And CDV was diagnosed.... And CDV was diagnosed.... On facebook you posted symptons of what to look for in CD. that ferret has neither matted eyes or a mucus discharge from its nose, put up the link to this diagnose for all to see Y.I.S Leeview Ok I'll give you the benefit of doubt over education and experience So you posted that the ferret in the picture was diagnosed with CDV I doubted it as its not showing the typical signs you mention ie matted eyes and runny nose So this is where the education comes in Where was it diagnosed and by which vet? Straight question no waffling you posted it had been diagnosed ? or once again not backing up another of your claims? Y.I.S Leeview Quote Link to post
jac 12 Posted November 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 I only know what I have been reading on FB to be honest. But if you contact south cheshire ferret rescue They can tell you witch vet they have been to who diagnosed it. The photos of the ill ferret come from there page . I think they had over 50 PTS Quote Link to post
Leeview 791 Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 OK jac the question was directed to ferret100 now South Cheshire Ferret rescue did nt they take in well over 100+ ferrets from a breeder in Silsden, West York earlier this year? Y.I.S Leeview Quote Link to post
jac 12 Posted November 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 yes i think they did. do you think thats where it came from? Quote Link to post
Leeview 791 Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 Its possible but a vet would be the one to ask. What is certain if it was CD the whole lot of their ferrets would be wiped out not just a few Y.I.S Leeview Quote Link to post
ferret100 47 Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 And CDV was diagnosed.... And CDV was diagnosed.... On facebook you posted symptons of what to look for in CD. that ferret has neither matted eyes or a mucus discharge from its nose, put up the link to this diagnose for all to see Y.I.S Leeview Ok I'll give you the benefit of doubt over education and experience So you posted that the ferret in the picture was diagnosed with CDV I doubted it as its not showing the typical signs you mention ie matted eyes and runny nose So this is where the education comes in Where was it diagnosed and by which vet? Straight question no waffling you posted it had been diagnosed ? or once again not backing up another of your claims? Y.I.S Leeview Disease/virus etc symptoms can vary in individual animals, plus the photo is not clear enough to show the severity of conjuctivitis if present (btw I did not mention a mucus nasal discharge, but crusting of the nose which is a different symptom, for a view of this symptom, look at the pic already posted). All documented symptoms of a certain virus etc do not necessarily apply to each individual, however diagnosis is based on clinical symptoms, further diagnostics or PM. CDV outbreaks are killing ferts, whether you have experienced it or not. If you want to know where CDV was diagnosed and by whom, then find it out for yourself....you are a timewaster and so I am not interested in giving you info you could easily find out for yourself, instead of being stubborn and arguemenative. Btw, I am not called Candy, and I do not breed Angora ferts (as you stated on a different thread), so as you really do post nonsense, I have no further time for you. 1 Quote Link to post
Leeview 791 Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 And CDV was diagnosed.... And CDV was diagnosed.... On facebook you posted symptons of what to look for in CD. that ferret has neither matted eyes or a mucus discharge from its nose, put up the link to this diagnose for all to see Y.I.S Leeview Ok I'll give you the benefit of doubt over education and experience So you posted that the ferret in the picture was diagnosed with CDV I doubted it as its not showing the typical signs you mention ie matted eyes and runny nose So this is where the education comes in Where was it diagnosed and by which vet? Straight question no waffling you posted it had been diagnosed ? or once again not backing up another of your claims? Y.I.S Leeview Disease/virus etc symptoms can vary in individual animals, plus the photo is not clear enough to show the severity of conjuctivitis if present (btw I did not mention a mucus nasal discharge, but crusting of the nose which is a different symptom, for a view of this symptom, look at the pic already posted). All documented symptoms of a certain virus etc do not necessarily apply to each individual, however diagnosis is based on clinical symptoms, further diagnostics or PM. CDV outbreaks are killing ferts, whether you have experienced it or not. If you want to know where CDV was diagnosed and by whom, then find it out for yourself....you are a timewaster and so I am not interested in giving you info you could easily find out for yourself, instead of being stubborn and arguemenative. Btw, I am not called Candy, and I do not breed Angora ferts (as you stated on a different thread), so as you really do post nonsense, I have no further time for you. Well that really blows your education right out of the water "I wont tell how I know it was diagnosed as having CD" Conjuctivitus whats that got to do with CD? OK both have sticky eyes as symptons but completely seperate conditions you'll be stating next the ferrets were vaccined for conjuctvitus Did I really say you bred angoras? The site has you as their decission maker as to what to breed to what and your experience is based on having ferrets for all of 8yrs eh candy b Y.I.S Leeview Quote Link to post
ferret100 47 Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 And CDV was diagnosed.... And CDV was diagnosed.... On facebook you posted symptons of what to look for in CD. that ferret has neither matted eyes or a mucus discharge from its nose, put up the link to this diagnose for all to see Y.I.S Leeview Ok I'll give you the benefit of doubt over education and experience So you posted that the ferret in the picture was diagnosed with CDV I doubted it as its not showing the typical signs you mention ie matted eyes and runny nose So this is where the education comes in Where was it diagnosed and by which vet? Straight question no waffling you posted it had been diagnosed ? or once again not backing up another of your claims? Y.I.S Leeview Disease/virus etc symptoms can vary in individual animals, plus the photo is not clear enough to show the severity of conjuctivitis if present (btw I did not mention a mucus nasal discharge, but crusting of the nose which is a different symptom, for a view of this symptom, look at the pic already posted). All documented symptoms of a certain virus etc do not necessarily apply to each individual, however diagnosis is based on clinical symptoms, further diagnostics or PM. CDV outbreaks are killing ferts, whether you have experienced it or not. If you want to know where CDV was diagnosed and by whom, then find it out for yourself....you are a timewaster and so I am not interested in giving you info you could easily find out for yourself, instead of being stubborn and arguemenative. Btw, I am not called Candy, and I do not breed Angora ferts (as you stated on a different thread), so as you really do post nonsense, I have no further time for you. Well that really blows your education right out of the water "I wont tell how I know it was diagnosed as having CD" Conjuctivitus whats that got to do with CD? OK both have sticky eyes as symptons but completely seperate conditions you'll be stating next the ferrets were vaccined for conjuctvitus Did I really say you bred angoras? The site has you as their decission maker as to what to breed to what and your experience is based on having ferrets for all of 8yrs eh candy b Y.I.S Leeview How pathetic, your guesswork is diabolical. Read this carefully and try to grasp it.....I am not called Candy, nor do I make breeding descisions on some 'site', whatever you mean by that... Do you understand? I don't suppose you will....you have plucked something from thin air and think you are right....(as usual). Also try to educate yourself a bit, so you can answer your own animal health questions. You can have the last word, which I know means alot to your self esteem. Quote Link to post
Leeview 791 Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 And CDV was diagnosed.... And CDV was diagnosed.... On facebook you posted symptons of what to look for in CD. that ferret has neither matted eyes or a mucus discharge from its nose, put up the link to this diagnose for all to see Y.I.S Leeview Ok I'll give you the benefit of doubt over education and experience So you posted that the ferret in the picture was diagnosed with CDV I doubted it as its not showing the typical signs you mention ie matted eyes and runny nose So this is where the education comes in Where was it diagnosed and by which vet? Straight question no waffling you posted it had been diagnosed ? or once again not backing up another of your claims? Y.I.S Leeview Disease/virus etc symptoms can vary in individual animals, plus the photo is not clear enough to show the severity of conjuctivitis if present (btw I did not mention a mucus nasal discharge, but crusting of the nose which is a different symptom, for a view of this symptom, look at the pic already posted). All documented symptoms of a certain virus etc do not necessarily apply to each individual, however diagnosis is based on clinical symptoms, further diagnostics or PM. CDV outbreaks are killing ferts, whether you have experienced it or not. If you want to know where CDV was diagnosed and by whom, then find it out for yourself....you are a timewaster and so I am not interested in giving you info you could easily find out for yourself, instead of being stubborn and arguemenative. Btw, I am not called Candy, and I do not breed Angora ferts (as you stated on a different thread), so as you really do post nonsense, I have no further time for you. Well that really blows your education right out of the water "I wont tell how I know it was diagnosed as having CD" Conjuctivitus whats that got to do with CD? OK both have sticky eyes as symptons but completely seperate conditions you'll be stating next the ferrets were vaccined for conjuctvitus Did I really say you bred angoras? The site has you as their decission maker as to what to breed to what and your experience is based on having ferrets for all of 8yrs eh candy b Y.I.S Leeview How pathetic, your guesswork is diabolical. Read this carefully and try to grasp it.....I am not called Candy, nor do I make breeding descisions on some 'site', whatever you mean by that... Do you understand? I don't suppose you will....you have plucked something from thin air and think you are right....(as usual). Also try to educate yourself a bit, so you can answer your own animal health questions. You can have the last word, which I know means alot to your self esteem. A bit of education for you When a sentence ends with a ? An answer is required presuming you know the answer just say you dont know if you dont I asked where the diagnosis of CD you said the ferret had had come from? Then you bring Conjunctivitus into the topic of CD. Y.I.S Leeview Quote Link to post
happyferret123 13 Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Just passing this info along from? The National Ferret Welfare Society site - nfws The whole document released : 14th November 2011 CONFIRMED DISTEMPER VIRUS IN FERRETS For the last five to six weeks the National Ferret Welfare Society (NFWS) has been investigating a substantial number of ferret deaths which have been reported in various areas up and down the country, but mainly concentrated in the Midlands and Cheshire counties. As part of its investigations, the Society has paid for several detailed post mortems and some pcr (polymerase chain reaction) swab tests. However whilst the latter came back testing positive for distemper, the post mortem results were needed to confirm whether or not distemper was the cause. Today (14th November), we have received the results of the post mortems which were done in conjunction with Mr Simon Thomas BSc BVetMed CVR CSAO MRCVS and the Infectious Diseases Diagnostic Unit at the University of Glasglow School of Veterinary Medicine; The results – Distemper. Confirmed. As yet we do not know which strain. Mr Thomas has spoken to the vaccine manufacturer and has advised that if you do vaccinate your ferret(s) then it is best to use Nobivac DHP, 1 dose (vial) per ferret. (REMEMBER this vaccine is not licensed for ferrets). However this will not protect your ferret if they have already come into contact with another infected animal. Whether or not you vaccinate your ferret(s) is a decision only you as an owner can make. The signs to look out for, in order of importance, are:- i) Rash – pink with black coloured tip. Mainly appears in the abdominal area, worsening around the groin. Can also appear around the eyes and under the chin and, in some cases can been seen all over. ii) Crusting around the eyes; sensitive to light. May or may not have discharge AND iii) Crusting around the nose. May or may not have discharge. iv) Pads may well swell to double in size as symptoms progress and become 'crusty'. Symptoms are typically taking between 7 to 21 days to appear and not all ferrets within an infected group develop symptoms at the same time. There can be several weeks between the first ferret(s) displaying signs of distemper and the last ferret(s), more confusingly, not all ferrets within an infected group show symptoms or appear to develop this illness. Please note that apart from swollen, crusty pads the other symptoms can be a sign of something else, remembering of course that at this time of year human flu can be passed on to ferrets, BUT if your ferret is displaying these signs then please advise your vet of this before going to the surgery so that they can put their own additional protocols in place. Remember that not all ferrets that die, will die of this illness. As always, if you have a ferret that is unwell then please seek veterinary advice. Precautions to take include not mixing your ferrets with other groups of ferrets, refrain from walking ferrets in public areas that dogs and other ferrets have access to, avoid contact with strange and/or unwell ferrets belonging to another person. This is not exhaustive but hopefully will help you to decide whether or not to do something/go somewhere with your ferret(s). YOUR HELP IS NEEDED:- We now need to map which areas have had ferrets die of this illness, be it one ferret or more. In order to make this as accurate as possible, we will need to differentiate between suspected and confirmed cases. However, all information will be recorded so please either email, telephone or write to me (Bennie Lye, National Ferret Welfare Society, 1 The Terrace, Loddiswell, Kingsbridge, Devon. TQ7 4RH. Tel: 01548 550156. Email: herbielye@aol.com). Any personal details will be kept confidential but in order to assist, information on the veterinary surgery involved will help as then we can also record (a) what tests, if any, were carried out ( if vaccinated/when/ vaccine used/dosage and © what symptoms were presented. As soon as we have more information we will let you know but in the meantime, give your loveable, mischievous hooligan(s) an extra big hug. National Ferret Welfare Society (NFWS) http://www.nfws.net/ Sheila The National Ferret Welfare Society site - nfws Quote Link to post
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