Malt 379 Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 Foxes ain't going anywhere in a hurry.. Besides many more foxes are killed on the roads than by anything else.. Link to post Share on other sites
toby1066 413 Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 Another derrek bird and hopedully they'll tighten the laws or even better ban them lol to many rifles about poor basterds dont have a chance. have you listened to yourself? you sound like an anti wanting another mans sport to get banned as a knee jerk to some crazed gun touting maniac the majority of people who have guns are law abiding sensible folks it only takes a bad apple here and there to spoil the barrell. some of us like to shoot and hunt with dogs why does it always have to be one or the other you can do both 3 Link to post Share on other sites
SportingShooter 0 Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 Another derrek bird and hopedully they'll tighten the laws or even better ban them lol to many rifles about poor basterds dont have a chance. have you listened to yourself? you sound like an anti wanting another mans sport to get banned as a knee jerk to some crazed gun touting maniac the majority of people who have guns are law abiding sensible folks it only takes a bad apple here and there to spoil the barrell. some of us like to shoot and hunt with dogs why does it always have to be one or the other you can do both This site never ceases to amaze me. Some of the comments posted here are made to sound as thought in every corner of the country this practice goes on. I know that in this part and most of mid and west Wales, that is not the case. Prior to 2005 I went out countless times with people I know taking foxes with the dogs and equally they came out with me when the ground was rock solid with the rifle. Link to post Share on other sites
kenny14 656 Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 (edited) have you listened to yourself? you sound like an anti wanting another mans sport to get banned as a knee jerk to some crazed gun touting maniac the majority of people who have guns are law abiding sensible folks it only takes a bad apple here and there to spoil the barrell. some of us like to shoot and hunt with dogs why does it always have to be one or the other you can do both Well put, I keep saying the same thing. Many an anti would be proud to come out with some of the comments we hear from some of our fellow 'hunters' Edited November 1, 2011 by kenny14 1 Link to post Share on other sites
tegater 789 Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 I am keen that this doesn't turn into a rifleman verses dogman type of thread because it does nobody any good, but it does amaze me at times, when On this forum the rifleman gets accused of ruining the sport for others. Personally, I don't go out and shoot, trap or wire snares, for the sport, I do it to kill foxes that are someplace that they stand a high chance of killing gamebirds or livestock. The fact that I enjoy what I do, doesn't make it a sport, and I don't see it as a competion with the lurcher men or the local rogue pack, that hunt the same area. Admittedly friendly banter will go on between us, but that is it. Believe this or not, but the dog men around our way that also shoot, will share info occasionly, because it benefits them for another night out. Others suprise surprise, don't want to know. Yeah go on then...their not proper dog men then! My final view on this, is that I shoot with the consent of the landowner, and a lot of dogman around us hunt with the blessing of the landowner _ win win for everybody. If those two groups don't kill the foxes between them, they all lose their permission, when Charlie gets into the pen and kills 200 poults. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
miller 18 Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 Buch of skill less twats any retard can pull a trigger. Shooting all my places through the summer bragging about it, non of the places they where a problem, didn't even have permision just shooting out the window, to much of this going on. Another derrek bird and hopedully they'll tighten the laws or even better ban them lol to many rifles about poor basterds dont have a chance. Link to post Share on other sites
miller 18 Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 been on the news today...30 kids under the age of 10 have been issued with shotgun certs in the past 3 years..a bit off topic i know but a scary thought nonetheless ..atb stabba Why scary, you obviously dont know the law or read it before making a comment. Just because they have a cert. does not allow them to by a shotgun or shoot one unsupervised without adults. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
chimp 299 Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 i love shooting foxes and hares 1 Link to post Share on other sites
The Seeker 3,048 Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 Another derrek bird and hopedully they'll tighten the laws or even better ban them lol to many rifles about poor basterds dont have a chance. have you listened to yourself? you sound like an anti wanting another mans sport to get banned as a knee jerk to some crazed gun touting maniac the majority of people who have guns are law abiding sensible folks it only takes a bad apple here and there to spoil the barrell. some of us like to shoot and hunt with dogs why does it always have to be one or the other you can do both Well said toby, some posts on here are absurd. Link to post Share on other sites
stabba 10,745 Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 been on the news today...30 kids under the age of 10 have been issued with shotgun certs in the past 3 years..a bit off topic i know but a scary thought nonetheless ..atb stabba Why scary, you obviously dont know the law or read it before making a comment. Just because they have a cert. does not allow them to by a shotgun or shoot one unsupervised without adults. Oh im sorry if you dont agree ....but my personal preference would be not to let a junior have access to a shotgun whether supervised or not...bet most of that age cant even tie there own shoe laces let alone grasp the ramifications of the power a shotgun if used incorrectly....its easy to say supervised this and supervised that...lettin a child under the age of 10 access to a shotgun just beggars belief..infact the law is set to change on this matter and rightly so imo Link to post Share on other sites
cantona 310 Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 i love shooting foxes and hares what will you shoot when you and the rest of the marksmen have killed all in your area and the surrounding area , oh and all the other surrounding areas, no adults to move in, no cubs to shoot spring time, oh dear we have messed it up not only for us but everyone else and of course the fox Link to post Share on other sites
tegater 789 Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 been on the news today...30 kids under the age of 10 have been issued with shotgun certs in the past 3 years..a bit off topic i know but a scary thought nonetheless ..atb stabba Why scary, you obviously dont know the law or read it before making a comment. Just because they have a cert. does not allow them to by a shotgun or shoot one unsupervised without adults. Oh im sorry if you dont agree ....but my personal preference would be not to let a junior have access to a shotgun whether supervised or not...bet most of that age cant even tie there own shoe laces let alone grasp the ramifications of the power a shotgun if used incorrectly....its easy to say supervised this and supervised that...lettin a child under the age of 10 access to a shotgun just beggars belief..infact the law is set to change on this matter and rightly so imo Stabba. I would rather bring up my child knowing how to handle a firearm safely and correctly, than let them find out the hardway in the company of their mates, with an air rifle they have "borrowed" from somewhere, with no concept of safety. My eldest who is now 10, has been shooting shotgun since he was 7, and is far safer than some adults I know who have been shooting longer than him. Years ago, it would have beggard belief if a lad brought up in the countryside was not taught to shoot at an early age. Don't add to this pc mamby pampy society we are bring up our kids in. Link to post Share on other sites
tegater 789 Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 i love shooting foxes and hares what will you shoot when you and the rest of the marksmen have killed all in your area and the surrounding area , oh and all the other surrounding areas, no adults to move in, no cubs to shoot spring time, oh dear we have messed it up not only for us but everyone else and of course the fox Hares are slightly different, but in the right place, foxes need killing. You will not wipe out foxes in mainland Britain, there are to many places, (infact the majority of places) where fixes are not controlled at all. If we were wiping them out then fox kills would go down each year......guess what...they don't. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,216 Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 I do both shooting and dog work. But i have to admit the former is incredibly easy in comparisson to the latter. Especially when you have a 4x4, a high powered rifle, a caller and night vision. A child could accomplish good bags. It's your call what you do, but i just dont get how people can actually find sport and enjoyment in pulling a trigger. It's fairly boring. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
blan89 159 Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 been on the news today...30 kids under the age of 10 have been issued with shotgun certs in the past 3 years..a bit off topic i know but a scary thought nonetheless ..atb stabba Why scary, you obviously dont know the law or read it before making a comment. Just because they have a cert. does not allow them to by a shotgun or shoot one unsupervised without adults. Oh im sorry if you dont agree ....but my personal preference would be not to let a junior have access to a shotgun whether supervised or not...bet most of that age cant even tie there own shoe laces let alone grasp the ramifications of the power a shotgun if used incorrectly....its easy to say supervised this and supervised that...lettin a child under the age of 10 access to a shotgun just beggars belief..infact the law is set to change on this matter and rightly so imo Stabba. I would rather bring up my child knowing how to handle a firearm safely and correctly, than let them find out the hardway in the company of their mates, with an air rifle they have "borrowed" from somewhere, with no concept of safety. My eldest who is now 10, has been shooting shotgun since he was 7, and is far safer than some adults I know who have been shooting longer than him. Years ago, it would have beggard belief if a lad brought up in the countryside was not taught to shoot at an early age. Don't add to this pc mamby pampy society we are bring up our kids in. how do you supervise such a young kid? what if excitement gets the better of him and he shoots at an unsafe area? trying to grab the gun off him would surely be dangerous from any position. Link to post Share on other sites
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