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  On 01/11/2011 at 19:54, philkemp said:
  On 01/11/2011 at 17:18, hyperion said:

Sorry Stabba, didn't mean to get your back up but i've still to be convinced about bull crosses and i'm yet to see one with good feet

I own 1 with cracking feet the best ive sin for a long time but he aint nowhere near 90lb plus he's only 24 tts feck knos wat he weighs, neva had 1 knocked up toe in 4 year and most of the work ive done we him is up dales on bad limestone ground

 

Fair play Philkemp

 

Not knocking the breed but I just cant see how a dog that weighs upwards of six and a half stone and runs at twenty plus MPH can ever end up with anything other than stumps at the ends of its legs!!!

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who wants a f*****g Subaru machine ?? that not what lurcher work is about, in my eyes its about being out their with the wind and rain in your face,man and dog working as a team,walking miles going pl

To true mate thats how I like to go lamping walking the fields with wind & rain in my face with my dog by my side not driving around fields giving the lurcher game a bad name that not hunting thi

ye i always find when you breed dogs so heavy they lack stamina for a good shift,as they have more muscle mass than stamina to run ,feet problems to ,and as for subarus had my first one gl 1994 and ah

  On 01/11/2011 at 19:15, Rabbiting man said:
  On 01/11/2011 at 17:38, North east finest said:
  On 01/11/2011 at 11:06, graham4877 said:
  On 31/10/2011 at 23:45, Rabbiting man said:

Top class Bull/Greyhound pup the big stuff that will make 28''. 90-100lb with speed.

 

 

who wants a f*****g Subaru machine ?? that not what lurcher work is about, in my eyes its about being out their with the wind and rain in your face,man and dog working as a team,walking miles going places and no one know's i've being their, don't know about you lot but i just like being out with the dogs!

you talk more shit than sence if u want wind a rain in ya face get out the sunroof lol lol lol

On that note where does fieldcraft come in driving the fields in a Subaru I answer the question there isn't any to become a good hunter you need fieldcraft and the only way you going to get fieldcraft is by walking the fields with your dog or dogs not driving it in a Subaru ripping up the fields behind a dog you plum :bye:

much more field craft in a subaru you can do figures of 8, doughnuts and plenty more
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  On 01/11/2011 at 17:38, North east finest said:
  On 01/11/2011 at 11:06, graham4877 said:
  On 31/10/2011 at 23:45, Rabbiting man said:

Top class Bull/Greyhound pup the big stuff that will make 28''. 90-100lb with speed. Big dog pups with wide chests and big heads. Sire the blue Baptist, 28'' solid power house with very strong chest out of the best bloodlines in the uk. Dewsbury Dave Murphy lines x Gav's Buster lines. Dam 28'' single handed top class bitch. Game to the end. Old bloodlines that date back to big blue, the perfect Subaru machine. These dogs are bred to the best. then want £250 for pups yeh i.ve seen it I dont know were they got the perfect Subaru machine from & I dont know what they meant by it and why would any one want a lurcher with a big head & wide chest thats not a lurcher that a Rottweiler the dog is up for stud for £250 for the lining it chucks out real big stuff with speed it must be the top class or to make money the both adds are a joke.

 

 

who wants a f*****g Subaru machine ?? that not what lurcher work is about, in my eyes its about being out their with the wind and rain in your face,man and dog working as a team,walking miles going places and no one know's i've being their, don't know about you lot but i just like being out with the dogs!

you talk more shit than sence if u want wind a rain in ya face get out the sunroof lol lol lol

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: f*****g mad c**t

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  On 01/11/2011 at 17:38, hyperion said:
  On 01/11/2011 at 17:34, sweeper said:

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  On 01/11/2011 at 17:18, hyperion said:

Sorry Stabba, didn't mean to get your back up but i've still to be convinced about bull crosses and i'm yet to see one with good feet

what type of dog do ya keep mate

 

A beddy/whip x collie/grey and a saluki/grey x bull/grey

some do some dont i ve personaly not seen many bad ones

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Gotto agree with stabba, NEF and few others. Everytime bullxs and fields being driven are mentioned you all kick off. Again skycat and whin are stirring and again I bet neither have ever run a decent bullx, walking or from the motor.

 

You mention stamina whin, now if your driving fields I think dogs need more stamina as they have less time between each run. Walking you may not get a run for 2 fields, this may take 10 minutes whereas driving it may only take 1 minute.

 

As of the flat feet; do all danes, deerhounds, wolfhound and large greyhounds have flat feet?

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  On 01/11/2011 at 14:07, stabba said:

Here we go again..knocking lads who breed bull x,s for a hard night,s lamping...dont know the lads personally and aint seen the advert either...but i can say i have had years experience in the subaru dogging game(retired now) and not just any bull x will cut it. Also assuming these lads have no permission and go around causing havoc is another trait you lot seem to be blessed with. And (hyperion) stating that a dog that weighs in at 90lb+ will have flat feet is the most stupid statement you,ve ever come out with. A good idea would be for you lot to go out with a team of subaru lads and experience it for yourself before casting asspertions. Ive no doubt that most of your dogs wouldnt cut the mustard anyway. So to be fair get off your high horses and try it...bet you dollars to doughnuts you,ll come back in with a totally different attitude...atb stabba

dollars to doughnuts lol :hmm: now were have i heard that saying before :laugh:

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The only bad thing about a subaru is they use petrol so stealing the farmers diesel is no good to fill them up :laugh:

 

If those dogs have to be advertised in that loo role to be sold they carnt be that much cop, skycat write's in it and folks like whin read it...... enough said :whistling::laugh:

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  On 02/11/2011 at 08:10, Josy said:

The only bad thing about a subaru is they use petrol so stealing the farmers diesel is no good to fill them up :laugh:

 

If those dogs have to be advertised in that loo role to be sold they carnt be that much cop, skycat write's in it and folks like whin read it...... enough said :whistling::laugh:

 

 

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Funnily enough I have to agree with you J. Really good dogs are seldom advertised, unless the owner is the sort of person who keeps themselves to themselves and doesn't go out mob handed. And yes, I have seen a few heavy Bull crosses run, some good, some not so good, but they all had one thing in common: plenty of heart and drive: they just don't have the stamina for what I want: and I'm not talking about stamina to run many times a night over shorter distances, but the overall stamina to run for a long distance at any one time on the back of quarry which can stay. Horses for courses.

 

I guess that the difference between the flatter feet of a Bull is a bit like describing the difference between a walking boot and a running shoe. They were made for different purposes so shouldn't be compared: I'm trying to see it from the Bull fans' point of view, and of course I haven't studied their feet as a scientific experiment, but I have seen enough Bull crosses to see that many have bad ligament damage to their toes once they've been run hard for a few seasons over bad ground.

 

Now is that 'bad' feet in the first place,? Or is it bad animal husbandry? Or is it just the result of a very heavy dog doing fast work which its feet weren't designed for?

 

 

Come on, lets have a good debate about it rather than just the usual slagging off.

 

I remember talking to a bloke many years ago who had a superb Bull lurcher, with proper 'running dog' feet, the result of many years' breeding good Bull cross to good Bull cross. He said that this was the first dog he had bred which had EVERYTHING right: very strong arched toes, thick pads and big bones, suitable for carrying a heavy body at speed over rough ground.

 

It just seems to me that some people may not pay enough attention to feet when they breed.

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Skycat, feet are nothing to do with the subject this topic is about they are only mentioned because of some deluded fools quote.

 

But briefly....... of course! good feet are important but it isnt as simple as that is it?

 

Terrain, speed and style, husbandry etc etc all play a big part on how a dogs feet fair through there career :yes:

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