MickyB 327 Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 . Not feed it from the glove So how are you going to man the bird and do fist work if you are not going to feed from the glove.. ..when my bird is pulled from the enclosure after the moult he will and will not be allowed to feed anywhere else apart from on the glove.. when the bird first comes it will be put to the bow perch, when its settled and ready to feed it will be given a bit from the glove after this it will have to jump to the glove for a bit when it does another bit (slightly bigger bit) will be thrown to the floor straight away when its finished it will probably return to the bow perch, after this its offered a clean glove and is repeated by throwing bits to the floor when its jumped to the clean glove, a harris will learn that you and the glove is not a food source but a good place to hunt from thus reinforcing the pack bond that such a social raptor will crave. The bird will probably never be fed from the glove again apart from in some cases the trade-off when it gets its kill. as for the moult it wont be locked away and never see me, whats the point of spending months trianing hunting and bonding only to be put to one side for the duration breaking that bond and starting all over again! just the way ive learn't mate to exploit its natural behavior for the good of you both. atb Micky Quote Link to post
jasper65 6 Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 If you take food to the bird on the fist or keep snatching food then expect to sooner or later get footed. the bird comes to the to fist for food not vice versa. never ever have I been footed that bad I can't remove them, turn your fist upwards encourages them to walk up to the highest point which somtimes gets them to release their grip. Most birds are footy for a reason! it could be in its rearing which had made it arsey or the way food is presented or removed, a good bird can certainly be made footy by poor handling....... Quote Link to post
Bone42 41 Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 I chop my meat up into small mouthful sizes before we go out then I can just call him in with a titbit every time.He eats it,sits up and is ready in seconds and off we go again..Never had me yet. Quote Link to post
goldenlad 2 Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Mine i just pull the flying jesses tight and pass the food to her beak and she stands waiting for it as long as i don't hold it to low her feet never twitch if i pass it to her feet i need to just hide it in my hand then with my hand facing down i place it between her feet then i tap the glove and she feeds I've never been footed I've had her clamp the glove when hooded and she went through the double roo skin and well into my hand till i took the hood off again lol Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 If you take food to the bird on the fist or keep snatching food then expect to sooner or later get footed. the bird comes to the to fist for food not vice versa. never ever have I been footed that bad I can't remove them, turn your fist upwards encourages them to walk up to the highest point which somtimes gets them to release their grip. Most birds are footy for a reason! it could be in its rearing which had made it arsey or the way food is presented or removed, a good bird can certainly be made footy by poor handling....... ive never been footed by a bird ive trained myself, the redtail that footed me was a rescue job from jenny at the ibr, it was an arsey fecker, it was in a state and i mean a state. i had to cut the leash with a knife as i couldnt untie the knott due to the dried shit on it, had to let it moult out before i could do anything with it. Quote Link to post
jasper65 6 Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 ive never been footed by a bird ive trained myself, the redtail that footed me was a rescue job from jenny at the ibr, it was an arsey fecker, it was in a state and i mean a state. i had to cut the leash with a knife as i couldnt untie the knott due to the dried shit on it, had to let it moult out before i could do anything with it. totaly agree Paulus . if you handle/train them yourself any bad habits can only be blamed on ourselves. cracks me up mate when I see people picking theirs birds up off a kill to a chick leg and then wonder why the birds get possessive over tjheir quarry there's some pretty arsey secondhand birds out there which have been mishandled one way or another, I'm surprised some people havn't been seriously injured or blinded yet......... Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 ive never been footed by a bird ive trained myself, the redtail that footed me was a rescue job from jenny at the ibr, it was an arsey fecker, it was in a state and i mean a state. i had to cut the leash with a knife as i couldnt untie the knott due to the dried shit on it, had to let it moult out before i could do anything with it. totaly agree Paulus . if you handle/train them yourself any bad habits can only be blamed on ourselves. cracks me up mate when I see people picking theirs birds up off a kill to a chick leg and then wonder why the birds get possessive over tjheir quarry there's some pretty arsey secondhand birds out there which have been mishandled one way or another, I'm surprised some people havn't been seriously injured or blinded yet......... she was very aggresive, the lad said it was no good and just sat in trees and wouldnt come down he said he was getting a harris instead she made a good hunter in the end but you could never trust her, always has to be 100% on the ball with her, Quote Link to post
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