serious stuff this

[gnasher16 30,025]

So what you're saying is it's not worthy of putting it on you tube gnash, have you seen some of the crap on you tube. Oh it's definitely worth it if only for the sheer comedy of it!all I was saying there's not many on here that would say you should be on Jeremy kyle you inbred fairy to there faces.

 

Theres not many people on here who would call someone childish names full stop whether its on the internet or in the real world.....not the proper people anyway

I guess everyone does what they see fit to do..............however strange it might seem to some.

[LUMPHAMMER 324]

I loove the fact when he takes his shirt off you can see thetan lines from his vest :laugh: :laugh:

P.S. These aren't the fellas on the videos before or are my eyes deceiving me?

 

 

That fatter one with the lighter hair is the one who can just about speak in that video

[Attack Fell Terrier 864]

All this recording videos calling people out to fight isn't a new thing. I know DVD's and video tapes were sent before with people making challenges, but now that there's Youtube and what not it's quicker, cheaper and easier to just fire your video on that. I don't think they're doing it to get an internet following or anything like that, it just makes sense to do it that way rather than pass DVD's or video tapes about.

[gnasher16 30,025]

All this recording videos calling people out to fight isn't a new thing. I know DVD's and video tapes were sent before with people making challenges, but now that there's Youtube and what not it's quicker, cheaper and easier to just fire your video on that. I don't think they're doing it to get an internet following or anything like that, it just makes sense to do it that way rather than pass DVD's or video tapes about.

 

But havent they heard of the invention called the telephone to communicate thats even quicker ......unless of course they are doing it for the viewing audience rather than each other

[mackem 26,209]

I know DVD's and video tapes were sent before with people making challenges

 

 

Don’t let the bandaged fist in the photo fool you. Knuckle, Ian Palmer’s documentary about the bare-fisted boxing tradition of the Irish Travellers, might be about blood, but it’s not about gore. The blood Palmer seems most interested in is the stuff that pumps through the veins of the intricately connected Traveller community he visited and filmed over 12 years, a society where cousins marry, work together and, when the occasion arises, beat each other senseless.

 

“I wanted to make a film from inside their world,” Palmer told indie/WIRE when Knuckle premiered earlier this year at the Sundance Film Festival. “The idea and the approach was simple. I spent as much time as I could with the families with a minimal crew and small camera.”

 

His approach resonated at HBO, which is adapting the documentary into a new drama series. Industry blogs hint that the HBO treatment will trend toward dark comedy, since it is being developed by writer Irvine Welsh (author of the gritty novel Trainspotting, on which the film of the same name was based), and director Jody Hill of Rough House Pictures, the project’s producer, whose politically incorrect comedy Easthouse & Down also airs on HBO.

 

Knuckle will have its New York premiere on September 30 at Irish Film New York, which will feature five other recent Irish releases. This new screening series of contemporary Irish films is co-presented by New York University’s Glucksman Ireland House, and runs September 30 through October 2 at NYU’s Cantor Film Center.

 

Festival founder and curator Niall McKay, who is also the founder and director of the San Francisco Irish Film Festival and co-founder of the LA Irish Film Festival, said he deliberately chose films for the series that depict Ireland as it is today.

 

“I particularly wanted films that had a real physical effect on me,” he said, “ones that made me cry or laugh or get angry.”

 

“It was more about observing the [Traveller] families and trying to let the life reveal itself. The reasons behind the fighting were difficult to get at. The feuds stretched back over generations. It was always about defending your name and family pride.”

 

The three rival families that he studied, the Quinn McDonaghs, the Nevins and the Joyces, are all related, often sharing the same grandparents. As one of the women remarks, “We’re all one in the end.” Even if a Nevin married a Quinn, or a Quinn has a mother who is a Joyce, the rationale for fighting rests on defending just one family’s name.

 

While Palmer is able to ferret out the powerful origin of one particular feud, the sources of the disputes don’t seem as important as the disputes themselves. “Would it not be possible for you guys to get together to talk about it and make up?” the director asks Michael Quinn McDonagh, on his way to a fight in England. “You’re crazy,” Michael laughs, dumfounded at Palmer’s naiveté.

 

The matches are called “fair fights” and are organized with unexpected formality: when a challenge is issued, it is promptly accepted, a date and location are set, and the fighters hit the gym to train weeks before the match. Fair fights take place in secret locations with few onlookers. There are referees from neutral families and lots of rules. And everybody obeys the rules. Anyone who doesn’t is disqualified, and his family takes the loss.

 

Technology and money play crucial roles in this tradition-bound ritual: Families exchange videotaped challenges and fight results are reported by cell phones. Bets are negotiated for astonishing amounts of cash; winner (and family) takes all.

 

The fighters accept Palmer’s presence with the nonchalance of a generation bred on reality TV. But despite his desire to let the story emerge from the people themselves, they never forget the camera is there. Dodging it, challenging it, playing with it, they turn the camera – with narrator Palmer – into another character in the film.

 

Palmer said it was only during editing that he realized that the narrative would work better if he allowed himself to be an obvious part of his film. “The film is more honest for accepting that Knuckle is my experience of this world,” he said, “and my relationship to the people in the film and how that affected me.”

 

His “shaky cam” character dances around the fair fight scenes with a perilous immediacy. At any moment, you expect a fist to fly into the lens. Because he interviews both families involved in a fight, Palmer never appears to be taking sides. Even though he follows one fighter’s story more closely than others, he is not making a fight movie. There is no Big Match to decide it all, no good guys or bad.

James Quinn McDonagh, the soft-spoken man whose winning battles form the core of the film, says over and over again he doesn’t want to fight, but is provoked into it by the other families, claiming he’d like “to be known for something more positive.”

 

James doesn’t like to train either. “I’d rather be socializing,” he quips. But when a challenge comes from the Joyces or the Nevins, he comes out with fists blaring. “It’s the best way to sort things out,” he explains. Even after he swears off fighting, he is seen anxiously prepping his brother by cell phone before a fight, exclaiming as he waits for the results, “Grandfathers in Heaven, send Michael the power!”

 

Why do the fights continue? Palmer sees “fair fighting as still mainly about family and individual honor and pride,” a deeply felt emotion expressed here in macho posturing: “We will fight because we are men, we’re Joyce men.”

 

 

[marshman 7,757]

I think there doing it for there own community to see . To show there not afraid to call someone out.

[Attack Fell Terrier 864]

All this recording videos calling people out to fight isn't a new thing. I know DVD's and video tapes were sent before with people making challenges, but now that there's Youtube and what not it's quicker, cheaper and easier to just fire your video on that. I don't think they're doing it to get an internet following or anything like that, it just makes sense to do it that way rather than pass DVD's or video tapes about.

 

But havent they heard of the invention called the telephone to communicate thats even quicker ......unless of course they are doing it for the viewing audience rather than each other

 

Haha good point, but maybe they want to call them out in front of witnesses for the community to see, to show their intentions like? F*ck knows? but what ever the case, so long as they fight to back up what they're saying then I wont slag them off for it.

[Strong Stuff 2,171]

There's some "special" people out there for sure.

 

The bare knuckle fighter in this photo would be laughed out of town if it ever got out that he's scared of the dark ..............

 

 

[theferreter 311]

execellent

[Tuzo 251]

That teddy bear must be soooooo embarrassed................

[Guest mrpit]

got that knuckle dvd not a bad watch but seen all but one of the fights befor

[jessdale 416]

Not the brightest of folk are they ?

[jessdale 416]

Not the brightest of folk are they ?

[mangy1983 51]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drozvbGvJvU

shite in a bucket lads shite in a bucket :icon_eek:

 

I see Tom from Father Ted is still doing well

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lbuam21A06g

[goldfinch2007 2,332]

You'd like to think at least on of them would have friend with enough common sense to turn round and tell them they look like mugs, squeeling like bitches on internet blogs, are they men or f****n fairies........

why dont you tell them .your a little bitch following the leader.