Brother and Sister mating ??

[richie1000 13]

Loads of replys to this, but buy the sounds of it, little in the way of experiance...lol...bro x sis breedings can, and WILL produce VERY good animals, depending on how high the quality of the stock being used is!...just ask any succesful breeder of Bulldogs, racing pigeons etc....i know the Bull dog lads over here breed very tight, and i MEAN tight...i have two terriers on my yard that are so tightly bred, its crazy...there real nice dogs....if the brother and sister are great at there jobs, then i would make the breeding...you would be best of keeping an eye on them, any with defects should be dealt with early.

 

 

the worst thing you can do is start in breeding or line breeding over 90% of champion racing pigeons are crosses line breeding or inbreeding has ruined the pigeon game people looking into pedigrees to much and saying this bird has to be good as it has this so called champion in it so many times only have to look at any of the national champs in Belgium this year the home of pigeon racing to find that they all race crosses

 

 

i just hope lurcher men dont go down the same road with line breeding inbreeding etc

 

breed best to best you wont go to far wrong

 

 

there will always be exception to every rule

 

They may be "racing" the crosses but what are they crossing to get "the cross".

 

 

in pigeon racing there no such thing as a pure breed pigeon so there all crossed

in pigeon racing they cross two pure bred lines to produce racing pigeons

 

 

what is a pure breed racing pigeon ive never seen one

do you keep pigeons what familys do you race

 

 

i do mate i have different familys soonjens etc

[LAZYBSTARD 225]

Loads of replys to this, but buy the sounds of it, little in the way of experiance...lol...bro x sis breedings can, and WILL produce VERY good animals, depending on how high the quality of the stock being used is!...just ask any succesful breeder of Bulldogs, racing pigeons etc....i know the Bull dog lads over here breed very tight, and i MEAN tight...i have two terriers on my yard that are so tightly bred, its crazy...there real nice dogs....if the brother and sister are great at there jobs, then i would make the breeding...you would be best of keeping an eye on them, any with defects should be dealt with early.

 

 

the worst thing you can do is start in breeding or line breeding over 90% of champion racing pigeons are crosses line breeding or inbreeding has ruined the pigeon game people looking into pedigrees to much and saying this bird has to be good as it has this so called champion in it so many times only have to look at any of the national champs in Belgium this year the home of pigeon racing to find that they all race crosses

 

 

i just hope lurcher men dont go down the same road with line breeding inbreeding etc

 

breed best to best you wont go to far wrong

 

 

there will always be exception to every rule

 

They may be "racing" the crosses but what are they crossing to get "the cross".

 

 

in pigeon racing there no such thing as a pure breed pigeon so there all crossed

in pigeon racing they cross two pure bred lines to produce racing pigeons

 

 

what is a pure breed racing pigeon ive never seen one

do you keep pigeons what familys do you race

 

 

i do mate i have different familys soonjens etc

there ya are familys soonjens jansen based what do you cross them with...and if you get a good racer it will probably produce f**k all but it goes back into the family

[cúagusgiorraí 57]

Breeding half brother to half sister (The same sire), and the resulting litter usually has some replicates of the Grand sire.

Edited October 25, 2011 by cúagusgiorraí

[borris 12]

plenty of info on other threads -- i`d do a link but dunno how..

Copy and paste what's on the address bar if on an iPhone don't know obout a pc.

[bendrover 556]

Has any of yous done or no people thats lined brother and sister from the same litter? Is it possible? If any of yous or know people that have would you give me information Cheers

it was a disaster for a lad i know....moon dogs.

[thomashyne 54]

Loads of replys to this, but buy the sounds of it, little in the way of experiance...lol...bro x sis breedings can, and WILL produce VERY good animals, depending on how high the quality of the stock being used is!...just ask any succesful breeder of Bulldogs, racing pigeons etc....i know the Bull dog lads over here breed very tight, and i MEAN tight...i have two terriers on my yard that are so tightly bred, its crazy...there real nice dogs....if the brother and sister are great at there jobs, then i would make the breeding...you would be best of keeping an eye on them, any with defects should be dealt with early.

 

 

the worst thing you can do is start in breeding or line breeding over 90% of champion racing pigeons are crosses line breeding or inbreeding has ruined the pigeon game people looking into pedigrees to much and saying this bird has to be good as it has this so called champion in it so many times only have to look at any of the national champs in Belgium this year the home of pigeon racing to find that they all race crosses

 

 

i just hope lurcher men dont go down the same road with line breeding inbreeding etc

 

breed best to best you wont go to far wrong

 

 

there will always be exception to every rule

 

They may be "racing" the crosses but what are they crossing to get "the cross".

 

 

in pigeon racing there no such thing as a pure breed pigeon so there all crossed

in pigeon racing they cross two pure bred lines to produce racing pigeons

 

 

what is a pure breed racing pigeon ive never seen one

do you keep pigeons what familys do you race

 

 

i do mate i have different familys soonjens etc

there ya are familys soonjens jansen based what do you cross them with...and if you get a good racer it will probably produce f**k all but it goes back into the family

you should be on the pigeon section not dogs go away

[richie1000 13]

Loads of replys to this, but buy the sounds of it, little in the way of experiance...lol...bro x sis breedings can, and WILL produce VERY good animals, depending on how high the quality of the stock being used is!...just ask any succesful breeder of Bulldogs, racing pigeons etc....i know the Bull dog lads over here breed very tight, and i MEAN tight...i have two terriers on my yard that are so tightly bred, its crazy...there real nice dogs....if the brother and sister are great at there jobs, then i would make the breeding...you would be best of keeping an eye on them, any with defects should be dealt with early.

 

 

the worst thing you can do is start in breeding or line breeding over 90% of champion racing pigeons are crosses line breeding or inbreeding has ruined the pigeon game people looking into pedigrees to much and saying this bird has to be good as it has this so called champion in it so many times only have to look at any of the national champs in Belgium this year the home of pigeon racing to find that they all race crosses

 

 

i just hope lurcher men dont go down the same road with line breeding inbreeding etc

 

breed best to best you wont go to far wrong

 

 

there will always be exception to every rule

 

They may be "racing" the crosses but what are they crossing to get "the cross".

 

 

in pigeon racing there no such thing as a pure breed pigeon so there all crossed

in pigeon racing they cross two pure bred lines to produce racing pigeons

 

 

what is a pure breed racing pigeon ive never seen one

do you keep pigeons what familys do you race

 

 

i do mate i have different familys soonjens etc

there ya are familys soonjens jansen based what do you cross them with...and if you get a good racer it will probably produce f**k all but it goes back into the family

 

 

cross them with a few different strains as i said mate the best racers breeders in the world today are crosses name a few of what you think are the worlds top bredders look in the ped there crosses

 

tom was Janssen based from Jos Soontjen's fathers pigeons, the VanHerstraeten hen was an introduction from a neighbour that kicked it all off as a super line so a cross

Edited October 25, 2011 by richie1000

[Kye 77]

If line breeding or inbreeding (whatever you want to call it!?) is good enough for world class Greyhounds, and the worlds finest canine (Bulldogs) then its good enough for me, and that is THE very reason i'll be (and am in the process of doing) with both my running dogs AND my terriers!...IF the said dogs being used have genetic faults, then of course weird shit will show up!...if you are lucky enough, to have the time/space/money/work for this kind of project, then i feel the Pro's far outweigh the Con's!...i dont sell dogs, so i dont have to worry about that, stock is just gifted to close friends who i trust to work the animals hard but fairly, then we go from there....if strange things show up, then deal with it, but is that any different from regular culls in a 'normal' litter?...cant see the difference.

If you know a line of dog, and like what it has to offer, why would you NOT try and fix that certain trait/stamp?....you know what they say.."Incest is the best, put your sister to the test!"...lol.

 

Kye..

[dai dogs 1,412]

Has any of yous done or no people thats lined brother and sister from the same litter? Is it possible? If any of yous or know people that have would you give me information Cheers

i bred the dog on the right with is own sister.

the bitch on the left was one of the litter. there were no problems with any of the offspring.

[lazyhunter 111]

Has any of yous done or no people thats lined brother and sister from the same litter? Is it possible? If any of yous or know people that have would you give me information Cheers

on way just look at lazyb and that should put you off it :icon_eek:

[Bosun11 537]

When the Pie dog was put to his litter sister he bred his best stock.

[LAZYBSTARD 225]

Has any of yous done or no people thats lined brother and sister from the same litter? Is it possible? If any of yous or know people that have would you give me information Cheers

on way just look at lazyb and that should put you off it :icon_eek:

i want my banjo back bro

[Rabbiting man 1,191]

Would you farther your sister baby twat you be going down the same line than plummer & hancock

[airbourne 128]

if you want to line breed to get the genes back its grand sire x grand daughter or grand dam x granson then cross the litters back in again, brother and sister mating is to close, you might get away with it sometimes but you will fook it up eventuly and just bred disformed or mental pups.

Have seen it happen in dogs, and i also use to race pigeons for over 20 years and have line breed for that long and kept the line going with great success.ITS EASIER SAID THAN DONE.

[old timer123 367]

Would you farther your sister baby twat you be going down the same line than plummer & hancock

thought hancock was your mate?????