malc1 544 Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 me and my wife took the four dogs for a late walk the other night we always go on the puplic footpath on the land by our house it was about ten at night we take the lamp cos she likes to see the badgers wwhen all of a sudden we have a 4x4 comeing right at us no lights on and two red lamps in our face two fellers get out the one had his fac gun with him and they realy had a right go at me and my wife ive also lernd since that they have thretend to shoot all of my dogs if they see us again they also drive round the lanes were we live with the guns sticking out of the windows they dont even live i this area is this legal atb thanks Quote Link to post
Duncan_642 0 Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 (edited) use your head.... sounds dodgey, Edited October 22, 2011 by Duncan_642 Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 me and my wife took the four dogs for a late walk the other night we always go on the puplic footpath on the land by our house it was about ten at night we take the lamp cos she likes to see the badgers wwhen all of a sudden we have a 4x4 comeing right at us no lights on and two red lamps in our face two fellers get out the one had his fac gun with him and they realy had a right go at me and my wife ive also lernd since that they have thretend to shoot all of my dogs if they see us again they also drive round the lanes were we live with the guns sticking out of the windows they dont even live i this area is this legal atb thanks ask a copper Quote Link to post
Plong 21 Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 No should have told them where to go, says it all that they feel the need to intimidate you and your wife with a gun, pair of fairys if you ask me. Quote Link to post
Lab 10,979 Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 Sounds like a load of pish!!!! Quote Link to post
DKGPestControl 22 Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 If you on the foot path with your dogs on a lead "not scareing the live stock" then you are quoite within your rights. If they were on the foot path with a loaded firearm they are breaking the law. Driving down the road with the firearm out of the window is just asking to be nicked Quote Link to post
danw 1,748 Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 If you on the foot path with your dogs on a lead "not scareing the live stock" then you are quoite within your rights. If they were on the foot path with a loaded firearm they are breaking the law. Driving down the road with the firearm out of the window is just asking to be nicked That statement is nonsense and as a pestie you should know that Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 If you on the foot path with your dogs on a lead "not scareing the live stock" then you are quoite within your rights. If they were on the foot path with a loaded firearm they are breaking the law. Driving down the road with the firearm out of the window is just asking to be nicked That statement is nonsense and as a pestie you should know that you are quite correct there is no law against being on a footpath with a firearm aslong as you have the landowners permision, its the same as the not discharging a firearm within 50 feet of a highway its all bullshit the truth is it comes under the highways act and says you must not obstruct the flow of traffic. so if you say shoot a pheasent and it lands on the road and causes a car to stop/swerve then you are breaking the law but if someone stops to watch you shoot then you are not breaking the law as they have stopped of their own free will. Quote Link to post
Lab 10,979 Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 If you on the foot path with your dogs on a lead "not scareing the live stock" then you are quoite within your rights. If they were on the foot path with a loaded firearm they are breaking the law. Driving down the road with the firearm out of the window is just asking to be nicked That statement is nonsense and as a pestie you should know that you are quite correct there is now law against being on a footpath with a firearm aslong as you have the landowners permision, its the same as the not discharging a firearm within 50 feet of a highway its all bullshit the truth is it comes under the highways act and says you must not obstruct the flow of traffic. so if you say shoot a pheasent and it lands on the road and causes a car to stop then you are breaking the law but if someone stops to watch you shoot then you are not breaking the law as they have stopped of their own free will. Is that 100% correct mate? I've always been lead to believe that it was and the shoot i pick up on has students as beaters and i have heard the keeper expalin this rule to them on a certain drive...he is a very clued up keeper and has alot to do with the college and organisations like BASC... Quote Link to post
kenny14 656 Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 If you on the foot path with your dogs on a lead "not scareing the live stock" then you are quoite within your rights. If they were on the foot path with a loaded firearm they are breaking the law. Driving down the road with the firearm out of the window is just asking to be nicked That statement is nonsense and as a pestie you should know that you are quite correct there is now law against being on a footpath with a firearm aslong as you have the landowners permision, its the same as the not discharging a firearm within 50 feet of a highway its all bullshit the truth is it comes under the highways act and says you must not obstruct the flow of traffic. so if you say shoot a pheasent and it lands on the road and causes a car to stop then you are breaking the law but if someone stops to watch you shoot then you are not breaking the law as they have stopped of their own free will. Is that 100% correct mate? I've always been lead to believe that it was and the shoot i pick up on has students as beaters and i have heard the keeper expalin this rule to them on a certain drive...he is a very clued up keeper and has alot to do with the college and organisations like BASC... Can't remember the exact wording, but it's along the lines of that it's within the law to have a loaded firearm on a public footpath as long as you have landowners permission and a valid reason to have the firearm loaded. Quote Link to post
Lab 10,979 Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 In England & Wales it is an offence without lawful authority or reasonable excuse to discharge any firearm within fifty feet of the centre of a highway which consists of or comprises a carriageway, and in consequence a user of the carriageway is injured, interrupted or endangered. [section 161(2) of the Highways Act 1980 as amended]. It is important to remember that the discharge of a firearm is not prohibited in itself. It must also be proved that there was an injury, or that someone’s passage was interrupted or interfered with e.g. they have been forced to make a detour. Looks like you are correctumundo Paul............... ...............but.... The Highways Act does not apply in Scotland but Procurators Fiscal may use common law offences of 'culpable and reckless conduct' and 'reckless endangerment' in situations in which the 1980 Act would be contravened in England and Wales...... Thanks very much Scotland.............. Quote Link to post
kenny14 656 Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 In England & Wales it is an offence without lawful authority or reasonable excuse to discharge any firearm within fifty feet of the centre of a highway which consists of or comprises a carriageway, and in consequence a user of the carriageway is injured, interrupted or endangered. [section 161(2) of the Highways Act 1980 as amended]. It is important to remember that the discharge of a firearm is not prohibited in itself. It must also be proved that there was an injury, or that someone’s passage was interrupted or interfered with e.g. they have been forced to make a detour. Looks like you are correctumundo Paul............... ...............but.... The Highways Act does not apply in Scotland but Procurators Fiscal may use common law offences of 'culpable and reckless conduct' and 'reckless endangerment' in situations in which the 1980 Act would be contravened in England and Wales...... Thanks very much Scotland.............. Can't imagine anyone in Scotland being 'reckless' Quote Link to post
Lab 10,979 Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 In England & Wales it is an offence without lawful authority or reasonable excuse to discharge any firearm within fifty feet of the centre of a highway which consists of or comprises a carriageway, and in consequence a user of the carriageway is injured, interrupted or endangered. [section 161(2) of the Highways Act 1980 as amended]. It is important to remember that the discharge of a firearm is not prohibited in itself. It must also be proved that there was an injury, or that someone’s passage was interrupted or interfered with e.g. they have been forced to make a detour. Looks like you are correctumundo Paul............... ...............but.... The Highways Act does not apply in Scotland but Procurators Fiscal may use common law offences of 'culpable and reckless conduct' and 'reckless endangerment' in situations in which the 1980 Act would be contravened in England and Wales...... Thanks very much Scotland.............. Can't imagine anyone in Scotland being 'reckless' .............Guarenteed you would get a fine at most and that would go straight to the courts xmas party...... Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 In England & Wales it is an offence without lawful authority or reasonable excuse to discharge any firearm within fifty feet of the centre of a highway which consists of or comprises a carriageway, and in consequence a user of the carriageway is injured, interrupted or endangered. [section 161(2) of the Highways Act 1980 as amended]. It is important to remember that the discharge of a firearm is not prohibited in itself. It must also be proved that there was an injury, or that someone’s passage was interrupted or interfered with e.g. they have been forced to make a detour. Looks like you are correctumundo Paul............... ...............but.... The Highways Act does not apply in Scotland but Procurators Fiscal may use common law offences of 'culpable and reckless conduct' and 'reckless endangerment' in situations in which the 1980 Act would be contravened in England and Wales...... Thanks very much Scotland.............. had this conversation with a traffic copper a number of years ago i bet him and he went and checked free beer all night Quote Link to post
Guest cookiemonsterandmerlin Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 If you on the foot path with your dogs on a lead "not scareing the live stock" then you are quoite within your rights. If they were on the foot path with a loaded firearm they are breaking the law. Driving down the road with the firearm out of the window is just asking to be nicked Hope your better at pest control than giving legal advice on a public forum yet to see in your first 11 post any sense. Cookie Quote Link to post
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