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i feel i need to add my 2 pence worth here

i didnt watch the program...but from what iv read...the program slated the pits

well good.....now maybe the pits will be driven back underground....and back into the working enviroment

for wich thay were bred....not to be some little pricks penis extention...and the devlopment of these dogs can continue in the hardest sport on the planet....just my thoughts

if only swamper,if only.

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i feel i need to add my 2 pence worth here

i didnt watch the program...but from what iv read...the program slated the pits

well good.....now maybe the pits will be driven back underground....and back into the working enviroment

for wich thay were bred....not to be some little pricks penis extention...and the devlopment of these dogs can continue in the hardest sport on the planet....just my thoughts

if only swamper,if only.

 

i know mate,in an ideal world....the thing is with the media is that thay sensaitionlize things and that program will only egg on the knob heads of this world that will what to stand there with is little penis in one hand and his penis extention in the other

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i feel i need to add my 2 pence worth here

i didnt watch the program...but from what iv read...the program slated the pits

well good.....now maybe the pits will be driven back underground....and back into the working enviroment

for wich thay were bred....not to be some little pricks penis extention...and the devlopment of these dogs can continue in the hardest sport on the planet....just my thoughts

 

 

 

Very true words.....its no secret that posiibly the best time for the sport and the dogs involved was POST 91...in other words...once they were banned !

It meant that for the most part the only pit bulls being bought or sold were the ones that were being sold for the purpose they were bred...NOT as a penis extension..of course good things dont last and as normal the shitbags come out the woodwork and cause the problems we now see again...the best thing that ever happened for the sporting dogs was the 91 dda.

 

 

I found the person Dawn B,s points interesting and sensible...just one small point id like to ask though.....having stated you think it best that pit bulls are not brought up in the family home,and also stating you have an admiration for the breed.....does this therefore mean you think the breed should not be kept as family pets?..and if not,what should their uses as a breed be ?.....im not having a dig by the way i would just be interested to hear your stance if as you say you kenneled dogs during the 91 holocaust

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I found the person Dawn B,s points interesting and sensible...just one small point id like to ask though.....having stated you think it best that pit bulls are not brought up in the family home,and also stating you have an admiration for the breed.....does this therefore mean you think the breed should not be kept as family pets?..and if not,what should their uses as a breed be ?.....im not having a dig by the way i would just be interested to hear your stance if as you say you kenneled dogs during the 91 holocaust

Hi gnasher.

I said that perhaps given the state of the anti-dog society we live in today, the Pit Bull, bearing in mind its original use and purpose, may be better off out of our country altogether. Reason being, they have been banned for 16yrs anyway, all those that live are illegal, so really any found (especially now) are going to be subjected to death if seen and identified. I cant help thinking the quality of life of a lot of these "pets" will be much reduced now in light of recent activities.

 

I have no problem with any breed as a family pet and I would say the majority of Pit bulls in homes as pets are as trustworthy as the next dog, however I feel the problem with them is that when they do turn they do incredible damage, I think this is what has heightened the awareness around them. A snap from a Jack Russell may leave a bite and small wound, but a snap from a Pit Bull may remove half the flesh off your arm. They do have a high prey drive and high pain tolerance, another reason I think why they can be a problem in some cicumstances.

 

I did board a few of the dogs that were seized and kept for literally years in kennels, one such dog was "Buster" I boarded him for a few months, he was elsewhere before I had him, and I have to say he was the most delightful dog you could wish to meet, even after spending such a long time in kennels, but sadly many of the dogs suffered greatly both mentally and physically, I do know that a few of the subsequently released animals were PTS because of the trauma the kennel life and lack of socialising had done to them, which is what I can see happening to dogs seized now, I persoanlly dont think pit bulls do well isolated and alone, but thats my opinion. basically Id rather see no pit Bulls, than dogs tormented and kept away from owners and families because of what they may or may not be, and with the severity of the attacks of present, I kind of see the way families must feel too.

 

Hope that helps expalin things a little. :)

 

This was "Buster" who I mentioned.

 

 

and a couple dogs that belong to different friends.

 

 

 

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Many thanks for your reply Dawn....very sensible points...i have to say i agree with what you say,well about 88 per cent of it anyway :)

Nobody loves the breed more than me but i have to say ive never thought the breed made good pet dogs in a family situation.....of course there are exceptions to this but on the average,90 per cent of dog breeds make a far superior family pet....but as always...everything must bow to fashion,even saftey and common sense!

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i remember reading somewhere when the dangerous dogs act came in (i was little, and completely dog-obsessed at the time, saved all the cuttings from the papers) that at the time more people were bitten/attacked by labradors/golden retrievers than all the "dangerous" breeds put together. the whole andrex puppy thing, aww, the cute doggy, go to stroke them and "chomp!". any dog can be dangerous if it's not properly cared for & socialised.

i always find it funny to see some chav-type getting dragged up the highstreet by some big, hard-looking dog. it doesn't make them look hard, just makes them look like an incompetant owner. i'd have a bit more respect if that dog was completely obediant & under control. not like the dog is in charge!

like the saying goes, "it takes a big man to walk a small dog". a hells angel with a poodle? now that's gotta be one hard b*stard!

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Nobody loves the breed more than me but i have to say ive never thought the breed made good pet dogs in a family situation.....of course there are exceptions to this but on the average,90 per cent of dog breeds make a far superior family pet....but as always...everything must bow to fashion,even saftey and common sense

 

 

I believe that if the dog is a family pet it should stay a family pet, if your dog does any work at all it should not be a part time pet thats when you get into trouble....IMHO...

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like the saying goes, "it takes a big man to walk a small dog". a hells angel with a poodle? now that's gotta be one hard b*stard!

well i never was a hells angel but i was invited to prospect for them back around 89-90,never had a poodle but my rough haired patt looked a bit like one.

hard as feck me :laugh:

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Nobody loves the breed more than me but i have to say ive never thought the breed made good pet dogs in a family situation.....of course there are exceptions to this but on the average,90 per cent of dog breeds make a far superior family pet....but as always...everything must bow to fashion,even saftey and common sense

 

 

I believe that if the dog is a family pet it should stay a family pet, if your dog does any work at all it should not be a part time pet thats when you get into trouble....IMHO...

 

 

what i meant mate was 90 per cent of dog breeds make a "naturally" superior family pet...just the same as greyhounds...theres so many breeds which by their nature make much better,far less risky " family pet dogs"

if you want a car for general everyday use to get back and forth to the shops etc.. you dont need a ferrari do you.

same applies to a pet dog in my opinion.

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I see what your saying dawn but why is it that other breeds such as rotties, GSD, dobermans and the like are not banned when they kill or maime.

Is it like i said that there are more of them to deal with or because they are regestered with the kennel club..

 

 

I'm sure pits would have been aforded more protection if they were a KC registered breed but I think ALL dog owners should stick together. The image of the pit was down to poor representation within the media.

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I see what your saying dawn but why is it that other breeds such as rotties, GSD, dobermans and the like are not banned when they kill or maime.

Is it like i said that there are more of them to deal with or because they are regestered with the kennel club..

 

 

I'm sure pits would have been aforded more protection if they were a KC registered breed but I think ALL dog owners should stick together. The image of the pit was down to poor representation within the media.

 

a very valid point

i wonder how people would feel if thay were being pulled for haveing "snake head type dogs"

as thay maybe capable of catching hares....not haveing ago at anyone but we should all stand side by side

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