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[ChrisJones 7,975]

http://www.fataldogattacks.com/statistics.html

 

Like I said the statistics are there but they're flawed. The original comment was directed world wide so the stats reflect that. I'm not anti-bull breed, infact quite the opposite.

Edited March 24, 2007 by ChrisJones

[AKA-BRINDLE 879]

Flawed as in they are the statistics from the US since 65 and the statiatics for the UK are....................????

[Dawn B 212]

I'M SORRY BUT THATS BULLSHIT,COMPLETE BOLLOX WHICH STATISTICS ARE THESE YOUR QUOTEING?????I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE THEM IN FACT I INSIST YOU BACK UP THE COMPLETE LOAD OF SHITE YOU HAVE POSTED ABOVE, IGNORANCE! "serious doubts about temperaments "YOU HAVEN'T GOT A f****n CLUE, PETTY MINDED MIDDLE CLASS PEOPLE MAKING IGNORANT COMENTS ABOUT BREEDS THEY OBVIOUSLY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT IT MAKES ME SICK!

First of all stop shouting, we can all read small type much easier!

 

The statistics are there for all to see, you need only look, Im not pointing you in any direction when you are obviously an expert already! I have boarded Pit bulls and every other type of dog you care to name for the last 15yrs, I have 2 questionable "types" in at present, that would be removed from Merseyside and never seen again in a flash!

 

When the original DDA was bought about and dogs seized, I was among the few people who boarded and cared for some of these dogs for some considerable length of time, so please do not insult people whom you know nothing about.

 

Chris is correct, the statistics are world wide and given the US data, I believe they are correct, and this is what has contributed to the situation with these dogs in THIS country.

 

Bottom line?

The DDA was bought in 1991, ALL Pit Bulls should now be dead, we know they are not, and the low lifes that got them the bad press in the first place continue to breed them, and for the same reasons they always have. PB's bred in homes are NOT responsibly bred nor owned either, as owning an illegal breed is obviously against the law, whats cool about that? more specifically flaunting these dogs for all to see is just stupid.

 

I am a HUGE fan of the Pit Bull Terrier, I always have been, but given todays society and the way people feel about dogs, I feel that perhaps there is not room for a PB in a pet home, and of course there shouldnt be any anyway!

 

I will give you this link though for your perusal.

Dawn.

 

http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/duip/dogbreeds.pdf

Edited March 24, 2007 by Dawn B

[ChrisJones 7,975]

Flawed as in they are the statistics from the US since 65 and the statiatics for the UK are....................????

Answered in the context that it was. If you read anything I wrote previously you see that I was defending bull breeds.

[Dawn B 212]

This also may be of interest. Its the US again, it gives a wider view and incudes maimings as well as killings.

Dawn.

 

"According to the Clifton study, pit bulls, Rottweilers, Presa Canarios and their mixes are responsible for 74% of attacks that were included in the study, 68% of the attacks upon children, 82% of the attacks upon adults, 65% of the deaths, and 68% of the maimings. In more than two-thirds of the cases included in the study, the life-threatening or fatal attack was apparently the first known dangerous behavior by the animal in question. Clifton states:"

 

"If almost any other dog has a bad moment, someone may get bitten, but will not be maimed for life or killed, and the actuarial risk is accordingly reasonable. If a pit bull terrier or a Rottweiler has a bad moment, often someone is maimed or killed--and that has now created off-the-chart actuarial risk, for which the dogs as well as their victims are paying the price."

 

"Clifton's opinions are as interesting as his statistics. For example, he says, "Pit bulls and Rottweilers are accordingly dogs who not only must be handled with special precautions, but also must be regulated with special requirements appropriate to the risk they may pose to the public and other animals, if they are to be kept at all."

http://www.dogbitelaw.com/PAGES/stat...ogbiteepidemic

 

 

 

"Of the breeds most often involved in incidents of sufficient severity to be listed, pit bull terriers are noteworthy for attacking adults almost as frequently as children. This is a very rare pattern: children are normally at greatest risk from dogbite because they play with dogs more often, have less experience in reading dog behavior, are more likely to engage in activity that alarms or stimulates a dog, and are less able to defend themselves when a dog becomes aggressive. Pit bulls seem to differ behaviorally from other dogs in having far less inhibition about attacking people who are larger than they are. They are also notorious for attacking seemingly without warning, a tendency exacerbated by the custom of docking pit bulls' tails so that warning signals are not easily recognized. Thus the adult victim of a pit bull attack may have had little or no opportunity to read the warning signals that would avert an attack from any other dog."

 

http://www.dogbitelaw.com/Dog%20Atta...%20Clifton.pdf

 

Again, I am just pointing out the facts.

Edited March 24, 2007 by Dawn B

[ChrisJones 7,975]

http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/index...=0entry212114

[AKA-BRINDLE 879]

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When the original DDA was bought about and dogs seized, I was among the few people who boarded and cared for some of these dogs for some considerable length of time, so please do not insult people whom you know nothing about.

 

 

SO YOU WHERE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT HAPPILY MADE MONEY OFF OF OTHER PEOPLES MISERY BACK IN 91 BY IMPRISONING THEIR PETS FOR THE RSPCA AND POLICE......NICE SUMS YOU UP

YOUR A BIG FAN OF THE PIT BULL BUT DON'T THINK IT SUITABLE FOR APET HOME SAYS ALOT ASWELL......IGNORANT

CHRIS JONES HAS POSTED UP THE STATISTICS OF SOME ONE WHO SIMPLY WANTS TO USE SENSATIONALISED STATISTICS TO SELL HER CHEAP TACKY BOOK LIKE I SAID POST UP THE TRUE STATS FOR THE UK AND THAT WILL PUT A TRUE PERSPECTIVE ON THIS WHOLE ISSUE

NO WONDER YOUR ALLWAYS SO QUICK TO SUGGEST CASTRATION AND SPAYING FOR BULL BREEDS OBVIOUS WHO YOUR IN BED WITH........WHO PAYS YOUR MORGAGE,OLD BILL? OR RSPCA?

[Dawn B 212]

Now you are just making yourself look stupid! For gods sake wake up!

 

SO YOU WHERE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT HAPPILY MADE MONEY OFF OF OTHER PEOPLES MISERY BACK IN 91 BY IMPRISONING THEIR PETS FOR THE RSPCA AND POLICE......NICE SUMS YOU UP

Were you born then? because they way you are speaking, to me at least (female of course! :whistle: ) you sound like a child.

 

YOUR A BIG FAN OF THE PIT BULL BUT DON'T THINK IT SUITABLE FOR APET HOME SAYS ALOT ASWELL......IGNORANT

They say ignorance is bliss, if you choose to ignore the law and the data in front of you, its not me who is ignorant is it?

 

NO WONDER YOUR ALLWAYS SO QUICK TO SUGGEST CASTRATION AND SPAYING FOR BULL BREEDS OBVIOUS WHO YOUR IN BED WITH........WHO PAYS YOUR MORGAGE,OLD BILL? OR RSPCA?

Tut tut, I would only ever suggest anything if I KNEW what I was saying was correct, of course if you read the posts then you would of noticed I said consult a VET!! its a shame you dont take a leaf from that and do YOUR homework first, before spouting off.

 

Id like to continue the discussion in an ADULT manner , I am very interested in Pit bulls, as i said I am very fond of them

dawn.

Edited March 24, 2007 by Dawn B

[ChrisJones 7,975]

CHRIS JONES HAS POSTED UP THE STATISTICS OF SOME ONE WHO SIMPLY WANTS TO USE SENSATIONALISED STATISTICS TO SELL HER CHEAP TACKY BOOK LIKE I SAID POST UP THE TRUE STATS FOR THE UK AND THAT WILL PUT A TRUE PERSPECTIVE ON THIS WHOLE ISSUE

As far as I'm aware there aren't any true statistics for anywhere because THE STATISTICS ARE FLAWED (as I've constantly said since I made the mistake of posting in this thread).

 

I have no axe to grind against Bull Breeds. The problem lies elsewhere

 

I hereby withdraw from this thread. I cannot have a battle of wits when my opponent is clearly unarmed.

[Dawn B 212]

I know what you mean Chris. you show people the stuff you are speaking of and get it threw back at you, like banging your head up a brick wall!

 

For what its worth AKA Brindle, i would assume you own Bull breed, and for the defense you are showing for them should be commended, but dont beat me up for having an opinion.

dawn.

Edited March 24, 2007 by Dawn B

[apollo 9]

I have in the past had them and mine hated dogs that were his size or larger for some reason but he was great with my family and old ladys at the boot sales my mrs used to make us attend on sundays.

 

BUT and this is a big but i would not leave him alone with people he didnt know , maybe im just responsable because i know there was little i could do to stop him if he had taken a dislike to someone he`d been left with.

 

The point im trying to make is, the dogs were bred to fight dogs but can quite easily be made to dislike people but that aint down to the dog

Edited March 24, 2007 by apollo

[Dawn B 212]

The point im trying to make is, the dogs were bred to fight dogs but can quite easily be made to dislike people but that aint down to the dog

I absolutely agree with that Apollo!

 

Brindle thinks I dont like these dogs but I do, because of that Id rather see them gone altogether from this country than subjected to the aggro they are now. I know these dogs can make wonderful companions, but when they turn they do incredible damage very quickly, for gods sake that why Lurcher folk use them! Take this in perspective and you have a dog with a VERY high pain threshold, a very prey drive, and one that is almost impossible to stop when it goes. I dont for one minute think the dogs are to blame.

 

Cracking dog that Apollo.

Dawn.

[apollo 9]

Thanks dawn he was a real companion, he was brought up with a 10 lb jack russel with which he slept down stairs and they were left alone in the house and were like brother and sister.

 

It was strange to see them play fight

 

 

Although my son werent to sure sometimes

Edited March 24, 2007 by apollo

[swamper 11]

i feel i need to add my 2 pence worth here

i didnt watch the program...but from what iv read...the program slated the pits

well good.....now maybe the pits will be driven back underground....and back into the working enviroment

for wich thay were bred....not to be some little pricks penis extention...and the devlopment of these dogs can continue in the hardest sport on the planet....just my thoughts

[jacob 28]

i feel i need to add my 2 pence worth here

i didnt watch the program...but from what iv read...the program slated the pits

well good.....now maybe the pits will be driven back underground....and back into the working enviroment

for wich thay were bred....not to be some little pricks penis extention...and the devlopment of these dogs can continue in the hardest sport on the planet....just my thoughts