remyd 68 Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 hi im thinking of getting setup in nv and would like to hear your views on it. shall i get the yukon exelon 4x50 gen1 monocular or just a sony camcorder with nightshot! which 1 would give me the best picture or nv performance? cheer remyd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE GRIFF 8 Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 I use a pulsar challenger as a add on with a mtc mamba lite scope and it works spot on, you can spot eye shine 150 yards+ and shoot rabbits 100 yards with a n1000 ir laser. Apparently the challenger is better than the exelon as an add on but if you are using it as a spotter the exelon is the better of the two. I don't know, but I would presume the camcorder would be heavier and in black and White. I have a Yukon ranger and just can't get away with digital, it's too bright and makes my eyes go funny when used on a really dark night. There are some night vision meets coming up next month where you could view a few different set ups before you rush into it. I know I haven't answered you questions but maybe give you some things to think about, or confused you even more!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
remyd 68 Posted October 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 cheers pal, thats sound advise. scott country are selling them with the dsa for £295 or £379 with a high powered ir flashlight but it dont say how powerfull! will it be better if i just got the challenger with the normal built-in ir and then buy a n1000??? cheers again remyd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye 1 0 Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 I use a pulsar challenger as a add on with a mtc mamba lite scope and it works spot on, you can spot eye shine 150 yards+ and shoot rabbits 100 yards with a n1000 ir laser. Apparently the challenger is better than the exelon as an add on but if you are using it as a spotter the exelon is the better of the two. I don't know, but I would presume the camcorder would be heavier and in black and White. I have a Yukon ranger and just can't get away with digital, it's too bright and makes my eyes go funny when used on a really dark night. There are some night vision meets coming up next month where you could view a few different set ups before you rush into it. I know I haven't answered you questions but maybe give you some things to think about, or confused you even more!!!! Griff the yukon ranger can be turned down so its not so bright fetch it next time you come over and i will show you ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE GRIFF 8 Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 (edited) I would get the laser if you want to spot rabbits at any distance, it's alot better. I would try and get to one of the nv meets if I was you to have a look through some different set ups. Some people don't like add ons and prefer a dedicated set up instead. With an add on you don't need a dedicated gun as you can use your day set up but the shooting position is compramised due to the add on being longer. Some people use a stock extension with the add on, I just have my day scope slightly more forward that I usually would. A day scope with a long eye relief helps as well for the shooting position during the day. The best scopes seem to be the mtc range, the mamba lite being the shortest and lightest, but othe scopes work such as the ags and nikko range. What scope have you got at the moment? Edited October 10, 2011 by THE GRIFF Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE GRIFF 8 Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 I know it can but I still can't get away with it. It's ok when you are around street lights and built up areas but when used in the pitch black it makes my eyes go funny and makes me dizzy when I look away from it. It's a excellent picture though for the money, I think some people just can't get away with digital and I am one of them. I will do a swap for your envis if you want !!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
remyd 68 Posted October 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 so you only use them yukon ranger for spotting? Do you need a more powerfull ir on your yukon? iv got a nikko stirling nighteater 6-23x44LRX scope at the moment. There are these nv meets im from mansfield/notts? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE GRIFF 8 Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 (edited) I got the Yukon ranger for using near street lights where tubed night vision can't be used due to the lights, digital can be used anywhere. I think the nikko scope you have will work fine, maybe a bit too much mag 6x will be ok but 3 or 4x would be better for scanning the fields, it would give you a better field of view, you can then turn up the mag when you take the shot. I scan the fields on 4x mag, spot a rabbit, get closer, get it in my sights again on 4x mag and then turn the mag upto 10-12x, this works well with the challenger so you don't need a spotter. Edited October 10, 2011 by THE GRIFF Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE GRIFF 8 Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 The Yukon ranger gas a very good built in ir laser good upto well over 100 yards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
remyd 68 Posted October 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 cheers for the advise think i might get a new scope to get the most out instead of a spotter then! just a few more questions can you not use the challenger around lights? and scott country sell the challenger with dsa, do you need to ask for a certain size or will it fit round most ie just tighten up around the scope? once again cheer griff lad you've been a real help remyd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE GRIFF 8 Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 You can't use any gen 1,2 or 3 near lights, only digital can be used near lights. The dsa comes with different size ring inserts to fit any scope, but I have just built up the end of the scope with tape so the dsa grips with no insert, this was to overcome the knob on the eye bell on the scope and saves messing about with inserts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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