Freeze Branding Of Dogs

[Carraghs Gem 1,675]

the way my horses were done was a mix of letters and numbers ie; J24 etc

[littlefish 586]

Just wondering about the practicalities - my dogs are white bodied jack russells with broken coats and a hairy brindle lurcher - would freeze marking really be visible on them? I'm thinking about the difference in size, texture and physical make up between horses, cows and dogs. The vast majority of horses are dark coloured with smooth hair and large firm areas that can be marked and visible, would this be the case with dogs?

[unlacedgecko 1,466]

As Gem says a mixture of numbers and letters would vastly increase the number of combinations available. 4 numbers would give a total of 10000 possible combinations. 3 letters and a number would give a total of 175760 possible combinations. Every additional letter would increase the total by a factor of 26. Every number would increase the total by a factor of 10.

 

With a brindle dog the brand should show up fine. With a hairy dog the brand would be less distinct, but that could be overcome by regularly clipping the area of the brand. With a white dog the brand would show as bare skin. Obviously this system (like every other system) has its limitation. When used in combination with microchipping and ear tattooing I believe it will be very effective and make a real difference. I have changed around the order of my original posts so that the action one is the first one, to prevent people having to read the whole thread.

 

This will not be an overnight fix. Indeed it may not come to anything at all, but I think it is worth a try. Thanks for the pin Malt!

[unlacedgecko 1,466]

Skycat I think it would be a great idea to write an article on it in the CMW. I will send you the link to the e-Petition once I get confirmation from the Home Office that it is live. The Hunting Act came about not because the antis are a large group. Nor do they represent the majority view. However, the know how to make a lot of noise. If we as a community can make hlaf as much noise then I think that we have a chance of changing the law.

[stabba 10,745]

Anybody know if there are any vets out there willing to brand the dogs?? Or their stance on the matter?? I for 1 will be petitioning my MP about this. atb stabba

[unlacedgecko 1,466]

You won't find any vets in the UK who will brand dogs at the moment as its illegal. I have spoken to my local vet and they are interested in finding out the answer. I think that I will put a poster up in my vets as soon I get the e-Petition link sorted. Vets aren't needed to brand horses and cattle, merely an 'appropriately trained person'.

[dymented 2,220]

You won't find any vets in the UK who will brand dogs at the moment as its illegal. I have spoken to my local vet and they are interested in finding out the answer. I think that I will put a poster up in my vets as soon I get the e-Petition link sorted. Vets aren't needed to brand horses and cattle, merely an 'appropriately trained person'.

if its legal to do it to a horse how can it be illegal to do it to a dog surly the Animal Welfare Act 2006 covers all animals ?

[unlacedgecko 1,466]

I have contacted the following organisations to try and drum up publicity/support for my campaign;

 

NGO

BASC

SACS

DogLost

Shooting Times

Horse and Hound

Field Sports TV

Master of Fox Hounds Association

Master of Harriers and Beagles Association

British Vets Association

Northern Brand

Farm Key

Freeze Mark Ltd

Sporting Shooter

Sporting Gun

Sporting Rifle

 

If anyone can think of any others please add them to this thread or PM me. Thanks

 

Ug

[sallie 67]

I have had my horses freeze branded and it is quite large which is great on a big animal but wondering if it would work on a terrier say 10 ins high. Must say never had any fear of horses being stolen that have been freeze branded. It does seem like a good idea.

[Ossie n Arch 1,682]

[butcherboy 68]

I have had a dog stolen & returned 10 months later because it was chipped so I support anything that reduces the crime.

 

This will do nothing to reduce the theft.

 

Longers sentences for the criminals, a police force that actually takes it seriously & most of all, people NOT BUYING dogs that are far too cheap would reduce the theft rate.

 

The thought of seeing all my dogs running around with this visible branding on them is a no no to me. My dogs working ability is the most important thing but I still don't want them to look like a mini hoarding board.

Edited October 14, 2011 by butcherboy

[Ossie n Arch 1,682]

[alex1987 164]

i think this is a great idea. like has been said it would not solve the problem but it definately would make people think twice about buying a branded dog and i think it would make a massive difference to the number of people buying stolen dogs.

[patterdale666 1,620]

You won't find any vets in the UK who will brand dogs at the moment as its illegal. I have spoken to my local vet and they are interested in finding out the answer. I think that I will put a poster up in my vets as soon I get the e-Petition link sorted. Vets aren't needed to brand horses and cattle, merely an 'appropriately trained person'.

Have you looked into countrys that you can get it done in and would it be cheaper or easier to go on a holiday with the dogs to get it done?

[unlacedgecko 1,466]

Ive tried doing some research. The only places I can identify so far are USA and Australia/New Zealand. I can't find the appropriate legislation for Republic of Ireland or the continent. If anyone could point me in the right direction I would really appreciate it!