The real deal

[J Darcy 5,871]

There is a very big difference between those that have run them and those that are theorising about running them.

The only true way is to give it a go and see. For a single dog to take a stag you need a whole lot of luck, for unless that deer trips/falls/gets stuck in a fence/ditch you aint going to be taking one home.....JMHO

[Rabbithunter 456]

There is a very big difference between those that have run them and those that are theorising about running them.

The only true way is to give it a go and see. For a single dog to take a stag you need a whole lot of luck, for unless that deer trips/falls/gets stuck in a fence/ditch you aint going to be taking one home.....JMHO

 

 

I'd agree to that

 

Even the biggest of fallow buck/stags (???) take some getting down.

[highlander 0]

I've seen reds being chased by dogs in the highlands mostly unintentionaly and some by poachers. I only ever saw dogs taking hinds and young stags but never fully grown stags. My mate lost two of his dogs to stags being gored by the antlers as they fell, I know of another dog that got kicked in the face by a deer and nearly lost half the side of its face. Not a prity site for anyone to see. Reds are best left for the rifle men. Thats my personal opinion.

[subaruwilly 8]

There is a very big difference between those that have run them and those that are theorising about running them.

The only true way is to give it a go and see. For a single dog to take a stag you need a whole lot of luck, for unless that deer trips/falls/gets stuck in a fence/ditch you aint going to be taking one home.....JMHO

I think you`ve hit the nail on the head about people and their theories ! like you say let them give it a go and then lets hear from them how easy/difficult it is ! I know that even if a good stag does make a mistake and trips/falls or gets momentarily stuck, unless you`re on the ball and there to end it quickly( and believe me it takes some bottle when them big sharp handlebars are thrashing around !) or get a few people or fresh dogs to take hold with the dog, they will get back up and off they go again picking speed up complete with dog attatched flapping around getting kicked to fook

[midnight walker 8]

i was hill walking in glen etive with my deerhound greyhoundxbeddy greyhound he stood 27 inchs good solid dog took roes no probs pre ban of course when a red stag got up from no where he was on it in no time for ten minuts he got swung all over the ranochmoore till i mannaged to call him off it took him over a week to recover in my opinion there to much hasel and best left to the shooters would not risk my dog for a trophy

[MickC 1,825]

I know a lot of lads who ran the Red over the years and quite a few of these lads ran dogs that took these beasts single handed.The best of the ones I saw was a first cross Saluki Greyhound stood at 28" which took Red Stags on a regular basis.I put a post up on page 19 on the bull breeds section a while ago regarding running the Red.

Edited March 31, 2007 by MickC

[leec 132]

kill proper big fallow stags on a regular basis and single handed then see what you recon about reds ive a bitch that is good for the fallow sika an roe single handed kills rabbit fox an hare an more than 1 a night more than once a week but dont fool your selfs about the single handed red deer killers if some owns such a dog i appologise but have seen alot of so called deer dogs run an seen the very dogs struggle with fallow never mind red but i have a ready supply of the bigger species to run if such a dog is up for the challenge?

[MickC 1,825]

I have seen a few dogs take Red single handed over the years but have never yet seen a dog kill one or get it down single handed.The times I have been out running them I have seen them caught off deer fences,dry stone walls etc.The hardest way to catch them is out on the hill on there own terms as they cover the rough ground so well.Sometimes a Red under pressure will head for water such as old flooded peat diggings or a shallow river or a dyke then it will stop ,turn and face the dogs.Then if the dogs got the minerals it should be caught and the owner should be there to help out straight away as a lot of dogs are seriously hurt or killed running these beasts. I have never ran Red in parks so can only say what I have seen.

[salukiX 12]

about 70% of the time deer run in to some thing

[Guest Frank]

about 70% of the time deer run in to some thing

 

Especially, on the lamp

 

Frank.

[snoopdog 1,256]

about 70% of the time deer run in to some thing

 

Especially, on the lamp

 

Frank.

but its the dog putting pressure on the deer to cause it to run into somthing ....so it dosent matter how they are caught as long as they are....

[Guest Frank]

Had a few dogs for the bambies Most would run them into fences, trees ect. But, one whippet x greyhound i had, triped them up, by hitting the side and front legs, then grabing the throat, in a split second, he was a champion dog, much missed, have never seen any like him since, he excelled at everything.

 

I put him to a well known whippet greyhound bitch, but, never got another like him again.

 

Amazing, you can sometimes put the best to the best, but not allways get the best.

 

Frank.

[J Darcy 5,871]

Had a few dogs for the bambies Most would run them into fences, trees ect. But, one whippet x greyhound i had, triped them up, by hitting the side and front legs, then grabing the throat, in a split second, he was a champion dog, much missed, have never seen any like him since, he excelled at everything.

 

I put him to a well known whippet greyhound bitch, but, never got another like him again.

 

Amazing, you can sometimes put the best to the best, but not allways get the best.

 

Frank.

 

 

yes frank....we do our best, but i have a feeling that the "very best" lurchers cannot be bred, they just appear out of the well researched unions at random. we do our best, but i think good fortune plays a major part....sure, best to best may produce all decent dogs, but those that are true "greats" dont come along THAT often IMHO...

[Guest Frank]

Very true Mr Darcy.

 

Frank.

[Jack NUFC 1]

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Edited January 5, 2009 by ferretingkid