b53hunt 15 Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 just a quick question iv heard that is certain circumstances you can take deer using a 12g shotgun has anyone done this and what ammo have you used also is there any other ammo other than a slug which will drop deer and before anyone asks no im not shooting deer just heard someone who had thanks Quote Link to post
fat man 4,741 Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 just a quick question iv heard that is certain circumstances you can take deer using a 12g shotgun has anyone done this and what ammo have you used also is there any other ammo other than a slug which will drop deer and before anyone asks no im not shooting deer just heard someone who had thanks I have seen driven deer killed with 46grm o,s,but they were at close range,within 20yds. Quote Link to post
b53hunt 15 Posted October 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 thanks for your reply fat man just a thought could deer be dropped with 12g sg load cartridges Quote Link to post
mark@mbb 31 Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 I shot a red hind in macc about two years ago that had had its lower jaw blown off by a stalker and the mess that was left not a very good one i used sg and there wasnt a problem Mark Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 (edited) Life has changed a lot here since the 2007 Deer Act Amendment, but in principle you MUST use AAA. This could get very deep and very complicated, and lets not go the Humane Dispatch route too far, but there are times a shotgun is the tool of choice, there are a lot more times when the appropriate rifle is better suited. Edited October 6, 2011 by Deker Quote Link to post
The Duncan 802 Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 here, here Dekers. D. Quote Link to post
nasher1 258 Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 I know someone who was having problems in a plantation, he got it ok'ed for 12g ssg at very short range but it was designated as pest control as they were doing so much damage Quote Link to post
tegater 789 Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 I know someone who was having problems in a plantation, he got it ok'ed for 12g ssg at very short range but it was designated as pest control as they were doing so much damage OK'd by who, as this is nothing to do with licensing, and the law still says AAA, unless dispatching an injured animal. Certainly in England and Wales anyway. Quote Link to post
nasher1 258 Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 He asked his FAO who he could quote if the need arose, SSG is bigger than AAA and in the end he didn't go through with it as other methods presented themselves Quote Link to post
tegater 789 Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 Bet the licencing officer wasn't aware. Not bothered myself but dont know who else watches this site. Quote Link to post
nasher1 258 Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 Anyone considering using a shotgun on deer must make sure they are in a lawfull position to do so, for example for last resort pest control where usual methods cannot be used and you have tried all other methods beforehand, as stated there is a minimum shot size and apart from humane dispatch there will be very few situations where you can meet the pest control conditions criterea. So to sum it up if you still think you need to use a shotgun on deer please contact the relevant legal bodies and ask them the question because if you rely on stuff written on internet forums you will come unstuck. atb nasher Quote Link to post
arcticjohn1 0 Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 JUST USE SG's Quote Link to post
wilbur foxhound 480 Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 i was told it had to be a lettered catridge but that was about 2o years ago i take it the law has changed Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Maybe things changed and I missed it but............ I believe you will find in England and Wales it MUST be AAA. In Scotland it is AAA or Larger! Ignoring the Humane dispatch element here! Quote Link to post
tegater 789 Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Maybe things changed and I missed it but............ I believe you will find in England and Wales it MUST be AAA. In Scotland it is AAA or Larger! Ignoring the Humane dispatch element here! Correct, and the issue comes when you injury one, through incorrect shot size, and it does a runner. This might seem pedantic, but pattern SG and then pattern AAA, and I know which I would use. I am guessing these roe are not getting shot at 10 metres. On a forum like this it doesn't help our cause, discussing something which clearly breaches the deer act. If your going to do it, just do it. Quote Link to post
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