armchair _hunter 5 Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 after having a read of various books, internet etc its apparent alot of time is needed to train, hunt and and general upkeep of bop's how do you guys have the time? especially in the winter when its dark at 5pm? from my understanding they need to be flown a couple of times a week just to keep them fit? the second question is why can goshawks only be flown by pro's, alot of beginners are regularly told not to get this bird? thanks Quote Link to post
grovsey 74 Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 alot of people work shifts so can fly that way or they will fly them on the lamp during the week ,some do high jumps to try keep them fit when not flying but no whee nr as good as the real thing same as rope training , goshawks cant be hard work with the amount of times u need to fly them a week the get the aount of kills ,i think ideally 5 times a week also there not a bird u can f**k about with like you can get away with a harris ,as long as you get the experiance of a person who knows whatthere doing you can fly any bird you want at first not just a harris like you hear alot on the net. 2 Quote Link to post
armchair _hunter 5 Posted October 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 cheers for the reply mate, didnt no you could lamp with them! that would explain alot, i get up and go to work when its dark and come in the dark in the winter, dedication to the sport if you pick your job to suit! i always see online 'dont get a gos' etc but you never see dont get a red tail, lanner, saker etc just wondered what the fuss was about! how did you get into it mate? Quote Link to post
Millet 4,497 Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Im a free loader so to speak..i have a house which was given to me but pay no bill's... i have no permanent job.. but what do i make i save and by doing that it gives me load's of free time..and that is what a bird need's..as it need's to be flown atleast 6 times a week to get a good level of fitness and confidence. Quote Link to post
armchair _hunter 5 Posted October 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 (edited) sweet dude, point me in the direction of the easy life plz lol! what birds you got, do you eat what you hunt or is it enough to feed your bird(s)? eta- whats your view on gos's? Edited October 6, 2011 by armchair _hunter Quote Link to post
jasper65 6 Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 You can make a decent job of a Goshawk flying it 4 - 5 days a week, as for getting it fit its a different matter and obviously depends on how hard you fly it while in the field. if the bird spends more time on the fist than on the wing while walking about then you can fly it 7 days a week and you'll still have a unfit hawk. Good land and plenty of quarry is everything, the bird will be Guaranteed slips buidling up condition and fitness levels, the good thing here is the bird gets fit chaseing quarry and you get fit chaseiing and keeping up with the bird . a fit Goshawk will cover some ground! its the part of the falconer to get there as quick as he can. seen some pretty fat Goshawkers in my time and have to say "How the f**k do they keep up with their birds Gamehawking?" . Ferreting is a good option if you're a fatty and find it hard to keep up or some nice tame reared Pheasants that don't fly far ... as for flying 6 - 7 days a week? thats a 100% no brainer with me, I have a difficult life that needs attending to well before the bird ... Total agree with whats already been written above . Goshawks certainly can be hard work compared to other birds, they need more maintanence to keep them in condition and also be prepared to be held to ransom bigtime, everyday you will need to put aside a good few hours into that bird for a succesfull outcome..... Quote Link to post
armchair _hunter 5 Posted October 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 its beginning to make sense now, the more the birds hunted with not just flown about the field the fitter it'll be, likewise to get the most out of a gos' you really need to be on the ball everyday of the week summer/winter ,sun/snow etc, so with the beginner birds harris/redtails there not as maintenace heavy but will still catch there fair share of game but not a pot filler? thanks Quote Link to post
grovsey 74 Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 (edited) we dont fly in summer month as this is when the bird is in moult. regarding the hours ur working a gos would not suit you at all ,ur will be looking more at a harris /redtail to suit ur life style and work commitments Edited October 7, 2011 by grovsey Quote Link to post
armchair _hunter 5 Posted October 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 great guys thanks for clearing that up for me, happy hawking Quote Link to post
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