any one work 1st cross collie greyhounds

[Rabbiting man 1,191]

I.ve never seen a Collie x or my own Collie x's give up lamping rabbits & these dogs was ferreing,mooching, lamping on regular basis with big & small bags

[ftm 3,357]

i owned a 1st cross manyyears ago 26 tts best working dog i ever owned no good on hares but they werent my thing,teeth were easy for him didnt take him long to suss out how to keep a deer still [he would just grab them by the hock and wait till i got there] fantastic ferreting dog good ratter i would recommend one to anyone new to the sport as they are easy to train and very loyal to there master

[whin 463]

ackanory held them by the hock till you got there you didnt get many or he would have been kicked to hell a good dog gets the trip and then the kneck like a cheetah

[ftm 3,357]

i wont start an argument mate but this dog done what i said he done on numerous occasions with plenty of hard working lamping lads as proof im no fxcking jackanory you never saw the dog do it so you assume he didnt?

[whin 463]

plummer wrote a story of hock catching deer dogs sounded sureal until the dog got a broken jaw mate been at he game never had ahock grapler but sounds good, usaly adog learns after a few swift kicks from his qaurry pre ban you got any pics of the dog was he called hocky lol

[whin 463]

so he held them by the hock till you got there now what happens if he has went a good distance 2 feilds away or maybe more does he or did he still hold on to hock even tho he was geting dragged by a good buck ,poor dog iv eheard dogs been away for half an hour hocky now that would be some drag matefor poor old hocky lol butr you se were im coming from

[ftm 3,357]

i didnt do reds mate just roe and yes he took a few knocks but he never let go and this isnt a wind up i reckon more collie crosses may have adapted to this type of hold as they got older and wiser i did put a pic up of this dog a while back on this same topic

Edited October 7, 2011 by ftm

[whin 463]

first for me ive had several home bred collie types but no hock grapplers not a running dog terriers ye ,would be a handy dog to have ,did he catch them back when it was legal with like arugby tackle then just hock them sounds agood dog wouldnt had minded one of them even if he wqs tired after several chases did he still just hock them that old chalky maybe no he was a naughty man in his day lol

[Tiny 7 1,694]

Whats so unthinkable of a hock holder Whin?

 

Iv got a bitch (Just too say say not collie bred) here and thats her thing 99% she'll hock anything to bring it down from charlie upwards, And then move to the top end most of the time but not all the time she would keep hold of the hock (apart from charlie), She has never had a broken jaw ect and its not like this bitch has just seen a few know what i mean....?

[whin 463]

niose , for one mate , secondly could start chewing on the back end if hock gets to hot to handle ,takes needless kicking mate you get agood buck he can kick etc plus poor dog could get dragged about if on a strong beats but if you no the game you no this all youre self jog on

[Tiny 7 1,694]

Well i understand all that Whin, But dogs have diffrent styles ya noise i'll agree with you on that 100%, Can be abit hot and a bit of a pain if she dont change hold, But ill lucky enough like i say she;ll change hold if she gets a struggler so wheres the problem? End result meat for the table

 

 

And all this jog on sh!t get a grip you tit you come across as a decent fellah on here dont start with all that shit comeing a cross like its only you that does a little ....!! Enjoy your sport and dont keep putting a downers on others hence the dale thread...!!

[johnnywippet 2]

Had a collie x whippet as my first dog..so smart and had about 20 odd words she knew. 'Squirrel ' she'd look in trees. 'hunting' she'd jump around wanting to go out. i also managed to get her to range left or right .. "seek it' jumping around in long grass etc etc. A great cross but yes, sometime too clever for her own good. But man what a hound. I now have a pure whippet. But next dog will be collie x again. My perfect size I think would be 23" at the shoulder for a good all round dog. Now sadly I only hunt rabbits so the whippet is perfect. I'd go for a collie rather than bearded cross.

Think my perfect dog would be greyhound x whippet x collie. It's really rewarding have a dog with brains...if not a rather complex relationship.

 

John

[ftm 3,357]

the dog in question mate WOULD not be pulled around by a roe i assure you it was built like a brick shit house with a set of shoulders to be proud of. i knew it would be doubted by afew [fair play] but like a few posts have said it can be done [very very handy dog] atb billy

[whin 463]

i take it this is all colie corosses orfirst crosses we are talking about guys as there not manybuiltlike brick shithouses , im awary man of the truth unless i see it guys , so take no offence ,was the dog in qeustion a first cross collie cross etc mate and not the only person out hunting but i have had the pleasure to realy do a good bit and see lots hundreds of dogs work over the years in all sorts of countrys mate , enoy your colie crosses or types

[woodga 170]

i have a genuine first cross i run him on all game excellent lamp dog brilliant nose most people who see him run generally coment on his ability regular bags of rabbits in excess of 20 30 plus on good nights no problem he has a good turn of speed and is capable of catching a few hares if i was to give him a run on them that of course would have been pre ban he does have a hard mouth and likes to get stuck in on things with teeth saying that if you can get a good collie x you can have a good bag filler mind you iv seen some bad examples as well but iv never been dissapointed in my dog cant fault him but iv been lucky