neil cooney 10,416 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Do all of the above remedies and I'll guarentee the hair will grow back. Then in a few months the hair will fall out again. It's a problem with the black terriers that the vets can't seem to solve. I know of several terriermen who've had terriers with this problem and after blood tests and expensive cures the hair grows back only for it to fall out again. Stress, diet, mites, blood, hormones and mange have all been blamed and investigated and no solution found. My advice is get something from a vet to say you tried to cure it in case your accussed of neglect. Personally I think it's genetics. 1 Quote Link to post
smelly dog 16 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Worth a read http://www.vetinfo.com/dallergy.html Quote Link to post
THE DEALER! 77 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 have a young dog here at the moment that we bred and he s shaping into a good keen dog infact hes everything you d look for in a young dog steady alert quiet in kennells and a real fire for work only prob is his coat .he s a smooth dog and he keeps loosing the hair round his flanks backs of legs and ears we ve tryed nu stock it cleared him up for few months then back it came he s been wormed like clock work washed in duramitex we even shaved him to try and promote new hair growth and he grew back after that too perfection dog was gleaming in top shape but this last few weeks he s been losing wee bits here and there and after we dug him yesterday with the friction of being underground hes as bad as ever with his legs and under belly and head worst of all any idea s on what maybe causing this just too add none of the other dogs are affectted only him . could it just be his blood maybe allergic too something in his grub too be honest we are stumped so any ideas or probable causes are welcomed dogs are born with good or bad immune system, seen the same problems with dogs that have bull blood in there breeding losing hair like your dog. its like when you pass some travellers site and look at there dogs and there half fed, and up to there knees in shit, and there gleaming, well there the dogs with good immune systems, the problem with us dog men is we breed to best digging dogs, and not for good immune systems, i know of one top class dog man who would not breed to a dog that had a weak immune system, guys think hes crazy, but you should see his dogs .its a bit like humans you some time see a person all ways coughing and farthing and sniffing dont think he has a great immune system either, i have two terrier that have the same complaints as yours, years ago i be trying this and that and worrying what others my think, to day there all fed the same sleep on the same bedding etc, keep us posted on any thing you have or will try and works. Quote Link to post
brenner 773 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 a vetinarian told me pretty much what the dealer is saying, its the bull blood.. ive seen a handfull of staffs with this, including my own. ive seen pitbulls, lurchers and patterdales with this . the way it was explained to me was this... every dog has microscopic mites but somedogs [more commonly bull breeds] lack the immune system to fight the effects these mights have. my experience is the same as the dealers, it comes and goes with my staff, usually the back of his ears and legs go bald, i can go the vets and get a wash and it clears up quicker but it will be back eventually. [ hasnt shown any signs for about 9 months now]. Quote Link to post
sionnach 44 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 this can also be caused by tyroid glands as you'll see in some black greyhounds. you can get steriods for it that can help controll it.but seems to keep coming back every so often. best bet if he's not too badly marked bring him to good greyhound vet hope this helps, y.i.s, sionnach Quote Link to post
lurcher330 2,297 Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 (edited) i had the same problem with my black lurcher and a friend of mine gave me a mixture of pig oil and sulphur what he uses in his horse to bring back the hair on his legs after it has been out on grass and get's bog scallted and it works a treat.www.sussexcobs.co.uk/pigoilandsulphur.htm Edited October 5, 2011 by lurcher330 Quote Link to post
sallie 67 Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Have you managed to sort the problem? Quote Link to post
scent 509 Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 i had the same problem with my black lurcher and a friend of mine gave me a mixture of pig oil and sulphur what he uses in his horse to bring back the hair on his legs after it has been out on grass and get's bog scallted and it works a treat.www.sussexcobs.co.uk/pigoilandsulphur.htm iv heard lads of old tell that they used to get old oil from tanks years ago and smearing it all over the dogs coats and it used to kill everything Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 I was with a fellow today who has a very good black labrador that suffers from this coat condition. He picks up on a big estate and has considered putting this dog down. The dog isn't suffering but he can't have people accussing him of neglect. He's spent 800 euro on tests and nothings worked. It must be a black dog thing. The only thing I could suggest was Aloe Vera oil like what the old dog fighters used to use to promote hair growth and he's going to rub it on some bald patches and not on others to see how it goes. Quote Link to post
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Do all of the above remedies and I'll guarentee the hair will grow back. Then in a few months the hair will fall out again. It's a problem with the black terriers that the vets can't seem to solve. I know of several terriermen who've had terriers with this problem and after blood tests and expensive cures the hair grows back only for it to fall out again. Stress, diet, mites, blood, hormones and mange have all been blamed and investigated and no solution found. My advice is get something from a vet to say you tried to cure it in case your accussed of neglect. Personally I think it's genetics. I AGREE Quote Link to post
Rabbit Hunter 6,613 Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 I've had the same problem with my 6 year old lurcher since he was a pup, end of every summer the fur on the his back legs goes really thin and fluffy and looks bald, it stays the same all season then grows back around May time, only to happen again come Sept/October, I went to vets thinking it could be mites or alopecia or something like that and they said to try different things including aloe vera gel (which didn't work). I've also tried nu-stock aswell as aload of other things but nothing works. It doesn't seem to bother the dog or his performance so I think it's just one of them things. I've had one litter out of him and out out of 7 pups one of the dogs has the same thing so I think it's genetic. Let us know if you get to the bottom of it Dee... Quote Link to post
Guest dee mac Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 thanks for all the replys folks and have took on board what has been said he s had a good wash in head and shoulders very good stuff for washing dogs as it has a lot of sulphur in it plus hes had a jag of ivomec too make sure it aint mites etc and he s had hay fever tabelets as few have mentioned it could be allergy too pollen he took a bit of jip from his dig sunday so once he s tightened up and if we see no improvmenti ll take him too our vet if it turns out that we cant too bottom of it a very hard decision will have too be made fingers crossed we get him sorted as he has making s of a very usefull dog . Quote Link to post
digger. 615 Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Do all of the above remedies and I'll guarentee the hair will grow back. Then in a few months the hair will fall out again. It's a problem with the black terriers that the vets can't seem to solve. I know of several terriermen who've had terriers with this problem and after blood tests and expensive cures the hair grows back only for it to fall out again. Stress, diet, mites, blood, hormones and mange have all been blamed and investigated and no solution found. My advice is get something from a vet to say you tried to cure it in case your accussed of neglect. Personally I think it's genetics. Quote Link to post
sallie 67 Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 the vet can take scrapings from the site of baldness and test to see if a particular type of antibiotic will clear it, however it can all become rather expensive and may in the end not even produce a result.Aloe vera is one of the best treatments for anything and everything so thats well worth a shot, i keep it in my first aid kit I also feed the aloe juice fantastic stuff. May be worth trying it in the feed and hope it works from the inside out. I hope you get it sorted all the best. Quote Link to post
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