FightTheBan 1,147 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 when its a clear cut case like hyndley/tobin/black/huntlly.then they should be jailed and thrown into main stream prison.if thats a death sentence to them so be it.i just dont think the state should be killing people.someone who hasnt actually physically abused a child,but lets say downloaded child porn,then if they knew they wuld be jailed and mixing with every day criminals.i think they would refrain from downloading that filth.thing is they know on the whole they are protected,and lets be honest,i shudder to think the kind of chats those c**ts have inside.take away thier sense of security and i bet you would see a decline in this filthy behaviour. it could be argued that they have physically abused a child, indirectly. If there wasn't a market for it that abuse wouldn't have happened in the first place. they could very well say that.and i wouldnt actually disagree with that point. I don't think someone who has downloaded child porn should be killed, but they should definitely be castrated. The fact is your sexuality is in your genes, if you're attracted to kids then you always will be and you will never be safe around kids......so the only alternative to permanent imprisonment or death is to remove your sexual urges. It'd be like if all of a sudden they now made it illegal for blokes to have sex with women (or blokes in Judges case), that desire wouldn't go away because it's illegal, it would always be there and the temptation would never go away....unless you lost your spuds! I know exactly what they do with people who '' download'' child porn, they stick then in prison for a bit then they let them come back home , then find them a job & when the locals smash his windows the law take that very seriously , in fact MORE seriously than the child porn , i know all this because HE lives over the road from me , yes a convicted criminal who served time for having '' indecent'' images of kids on his pc & whats ironic is he was a SCREW at a young offenders place That must be very upsetting for a mother Why have people not burnt his house to the ground? It has happened around here a few times. FTB To be honest I have had one '' to do'' with him , something I have never talked about publicly before , all this happened about 10 years ago , the local free rag had it on the front page about this bloke Keith Locke & that all his vast pc equipment had been confiscated in an early morning raid , apparently they used one of them '' front door keys'' they use to gain entry Cutting a long story very short he was convicted of having a whole load of indecent images on several pc's & was put on the peado register, I cant remember how long he was send down for but including remand he was missing for about 12 months When it became apparent he had been released the house was damaged regularly , doors & windows put thorough, graffiti all over the place that kind of thing , i live in a cul de sack & he lives in the last house by a gully to the main road , so kids would come up the gully & sling eggs at his windows almost daily & leg it down the gully basically he had the f****n audacity to knock on my door 2 years ago new years eve & proceed to tell me that my eldest lad was one of them that was damaging his property , as my lad hadn't lived here for almost 8 & that I had no idea where the lad was , for a scrawny little twat he had an attitude , red rag to a bull folks like that to me . he claimed that there had been half a dozon '' youths'' buying eggs from the co op & my son was on there cctv , he had got the police to get them to run it back to pick out the youths , so i managed to get in touch with my lads dad & he said that the night in question the lad , his dad & step mother had been in the local club & that the place was heaving & said if the wanker wants to pursue it the police can interview the 150 witnesses in the club on that night I was savage at this point , 1 because i stopped my ex from caving his head in & 2 because I had doubted my son because he was a little shit & yes he had got into scrapes & i had the police here a fair few times for minor things , even to this day i got no apology from that wanker And even scarier is HE HAS A BEARD I knew it Hopefully one day someone will do the right thing and plug him Kay, then you can have a bit of peace of mind. FTB To be honest he is a pathetic excuse of a human , he is nervy & shifty , i walk past his house at least 4 times a day & to be truthful he is already a prisoner in his own home, he dont even get in his car on the front its pulled up the drive as near to the house as he can get , he is a scared man , you can see it in his eyes , i get more pleasure out of knowing he is scared , i guess all folks are different , but mind games is the way to crucify blokes like him Still very nerve racking being in such close proximity. Scared people often do unpredictable things, like animals. Be much better if he was removed from the equation permenantly. FTB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Swampy 147 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 i think there was more evidence than the heresay of two 13yrolds Quite possibly. And there is definately more to the story than any of us have read in the tabloids. I'm not saying he was innocent. I really hope now he wasn't! I'm just making the point that non of us here are qualified to make judgements re the punishment metted out. I for one think that for him to be disembowelled in a cell by two characters of dubious backgrounds is not the way a civilised society should behave or allow And certainly NOT something that we should be applauding. I forget who said it ( Homer, Aristotle or Plato) " a society should be judged by the way they treat their criminals (prisoners)".........Wise words. Rgds Swampy philosophical ning So what do you think of a society who gives 4 years in a 'luxury' prison for someone who has ruined the life of at least on little girl and potentially many more? FTB Not a society that I'd be particularly proud of! However these characters are a product of our society and as a society we have to take responsibility for them.......In simplistic terms, Its our fault. We need to change society and you can only change society by being a part of it. There are no easy answers. if there were we'd all be living in Nirvana. Killing people for crimes does not solve the problem it just brushes it under the carpet. It was once a capital punishment for hunting deer...................It didn't stop it though. Stangely, it was once legal to marry a 13 yo.. Society changed that...........NOT the death sentence. rgds Swampy All for a hung parliament ning Dont agree with that at all, but I am not bright enough to start a debate on the ethical treatment of peadophiles with you, so I will leave it there. FTB Not like you FTB! I'm PC and you're "leaving it".......................See! Society can change us! Hope you're well and back to fighting spirit soon. rgds Swampy morphing ning 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 3,709 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 when its a clear cut case like hyndley/tobin/black/huntlly.then they should be jailed and thrown into main stream prison.if thats a death sentence to them so be it.i just dont think the state should be killing people.someone who hasnt actually physically abused a child,but lets say downloaded child porn,then if they knew they wuld be jailed and mixing with every day criminals.i think they would refrain from downloading that filth.thing is they know on the whole they are protected,and lets be honest,i shudder to think the kind of chats those c**ts have inside.take away thier sense of security and i bet you would see a decline in this filthy behaviour. it could be argued that they have physically abused a child, indirectly. If there wasn't a market for it that abuse wouldn't have happened in the first place. they could very well say that.and i wouldnt actually disagree with that point. I don't think someone who has downloaded child porn should be killed, but they should definitely be castrated. The fact is your sexuality is in your genes, if you're attracted to kids then you always will be and you will never be safe around kids......so the only alternative to permanent imprisonment or death is to remove your sexual urges. It'd be like if all of a sudden they now made it illegal for blokes to have sex with women (or blokes in Judges case), that desire wouldn't go away because it's illegal, it would always be there and the temptation would never go away....unless you lost your spuds! I know exactly what they do with people who '' download'' child porn, they stick then in prison for a bit then they let them come back home , then find them a job & when the locals smash his windows the law take that very seriously , in fact MORE seriously than the child porn , i know all this because HE lives over the road from me , yes a convicted criminal who served time for having '' indecent'' images of kids on his pc & whats ironic is he was a SCREW at a young offenders place That must be very upsetting for a mother Why have people not burnt his house to the ground? It has happened around here a few times. FTB To be honest I have had one '' to do'' with him , something I have never talked about publicly before , all this happened about 10 years ago , the local free rag had it on the front page about this bloke Keith Locke & that all his vast pc equipment had been confiscated in an early morning raid , apparently they used one of them '' front door keys'' they use to gain entry Cutting a long story very short he was convicted of having a whole load of indecent images on several pc's & was put on the peado register, I cant remember how long he was send down for but including remand he was missing for about 12 months When it became apparent he had been released the house was damaged regularly , doors & windows put thorough, graffiti all over the place that kind of thing , i live in a cul de sack & he lives in the last house by a gully to the main road , so kids would come up the gully & sling eggs at his windows almost daily & leg it down the gully basically he had the f****n audacity to knock on my door 2 years ago new years eve & proceed to tell me that my eldest lad was one of them that was damaging his property , as my lad hadn't lived here for almost 8 & that I had no idea where the lad was , for a scrawny little twat he had an attitude , red rag to a bull folks like that to me . he claimed that there had been half a dozon '' youths'' buying eggs from the co op & my son was on there cctv , he had got the police to get them to run it back to pick out the youths , so i managed to get in touch with my lads dad & he said that the night in question the lad , his dad & step mother had been in the local club & that the place was heaving & said if the wanker wants to pursue it the police can interview the 150 witnesses in the club on that night I was savage at this point , 1 because i stopped my ex from caving his head in & 2 because I had doubted my son because he was a little shit & yes he had got into scrapes & i had the police here a fair few times for minor things , even to this day i got no apology from that wanker And even scarier is HE HAS A BEARD I knew it Hopefully one day someone will do the right thing and plug him Kay, then you can have a bit of peace of mind. FTB To be honest he is a pathetic excuse of a human , he is nervy & shifty , i walk past his house at least 4 times a day & to be truthful he is already a prisoner in his own home, he dont even get in his car on the front its pulled up the drive as near to the house as he can get , he is a scared man , you can see it in his eyes , i get more pleasure out of knowing he is scared , i guess all folks are different , but mind games is the way to crucify blokes like him Still very nerve racking being in such close proximity. Scared people often do unpredictable things, like animals. Be much better if he was removed from the equation permenantly. FTB Sadly the law protects scum bags like him making them almost '' untouchable'' victims are usually given a far harder time than the perpetrator, Millie Dowlers mother for example was treated appallingly by the police Another classic example is Winnie Johnson , Keith Bennetts mother , the womans dying if cancer & she has appealed to Ian Brady to help find Keith body on saddle worth moor in the hope that she could lay him to rest before she dies, that woman has faught for 45 years for justice for KEITH She knows with Bradys help the police will resume a search, because its news , If i had one wish right now it would be for that courageous lady to be able to lay her lad to rest Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 oh who gives a shit anyway,the dirty beast is dead,and the granny bashers who did it,will get another few years on thier sentence.win win situation Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 26,799 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 just watching the news,, a guys just got 4 and half years for nicking a jcb,, and knocking down grave stones in warsop,,, he also nicked 15-16 others over a year........not a problem with him getting this strech.................but compair that to what this rapist got........wheres the sence?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 If they can hand down a set custodial for illegal ownership of an illegal firearm. 5years caught carrying a blade 2year i dont see why they cant hand down a set sentence for other crimes. i understand that previous convictions are taken into consideration,but the gun and knife sentences are for first time offenders. seems the justice system is far more concerned about street crime than the protection of kids.im prob way off the mark here,but i have always suspected the leniancy that is handed out for child molesters and child rapists to be well dodgy.not a dig here but look at the catholic church aswell.steeped in scandal and yet very few are actually convicted.more often than not swept under the carpet.makes you think who is actaully involved in these paedo rings and how far up the ladder does the ones who are protecting them go.you only have to look at the ones who have been busted.from lawyers to cops to teachers,drs,makes you wonder.sometimes im glad i dont have kids.it must be a constant worry that. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micky 3,325 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 one of the lads accused of this crime. who a few on here consider to be some sort of hero .was serving a sentence of 24 years for the murder, and mutillation of two disabled old ladys Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toby1066 413 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Personally, I think it is f*****g fantastic! According to the paper two lads held him down and gutted him like a rabbit. If it happened to more filthy paedos maybe they would think twice before raping kids... here here Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ulverston moocher 60 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 some people are sick and im not just talking about the nonce.. to think most of yous are happy he was disembowled [spelling] is outrages yes he deserved to die but not in that way no 1 deservs to die that way NO 1, that has to be worse then getting burned to death watching your self getting gutted and not beeing able to do anything about it would you say that if it was your kid he raped would you hell f**k him should of cut his jacobs off first as well the sick little twat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 3,709 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 one of the lads accused of this crime. who a few on here consider to be some sort of hero .was serving a sentence of 24 years for the murder, and mutillation of two disabled old ladys Looks like it wasn't the first time he had done the same kind of thing, lets hope & prey he is never eligible for parole Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob190364 2,594 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 one of the lads accused of this crime. who a few on here consider to be some sort of hero .was serving a sentence of 24 years for the murder, and mutillation of two disabled old ladys Looks like it wasn't the first time he had done the same kind of thing, lets hope & prey he is never eligible for parole doubt that some how....I would guess that's part of the reason why he did it in the first place, no chance of release so what the hell. must be a proper vile monster!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob190364 2,594 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 the thing that gets me about all these cases is the scumbag lawyers that sit and fight their corners. Those people must have no soul and no concsience! It just shows they will literally do anything for money! Half of them have kids and are fighting for a blatant paedo to be released!! I couldn't do that for any amount of money. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 3,709 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 the thing that gets me about all these cases is the scumbag lawyers that sit and fight their corners. Those people must have no soul and no concsience! It just shows they will literally do anything for money! Half of them have kids and are fighting for a blatant paedo to be released!! I couldn't do that for any amount of money. Sometimes I think they just have to have '' token representation'' Quote Link to post Share on other sites
staffs riffraff 1,068 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Scothunter just hit it on head these sub human scum get ridiculously low sentences as the problem goes right to the top probably where most of the images film comes from. As someone said two birds with one stone one nonce dead one vile scum locked up longer lol seems like a good deal being judged by your peers lol shame they didn't cut his balls off with a spoon first Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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