Malt 379 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 No system will ever be perfect and there will always be cock ups where a not quite guilty person suffers but tbh if I find myself caught out by the system unjustly and was gonna spend 20...30 years or my life in a Cat A I think I would rather take a bullet. So imo I supprt a death penalty, perhaps 5 years suspended death penalty, 5 years in a Cat A then if no further evidence surfaces on ya knees and a .38 in the back of your head. Equally though I would be just as happy if paedos, murderers and rapists were left to rot in a high security prison. But again, what if you put a convincted rapist in a shit hole of a prison to find 30 years later with new technology/science he was infact innocent? Imo thats no worse than having shot the poor bugger, possibly worse for what he would have suffered.... As long as there is society there will be injustice. IMO any person wrongly accused of an offence is a victim of the original perpetrator as well as the legal system. The legal system gets it wrong from time to time, but what is the alternative, no legal system at all? PS. Blan, we already know your thoughts on this matter... There isn't any real alternative Malt. Life aint fair and sometimes the innocent suffer and often the guilty go free. If we had an infallable judicial system then I would 100% want immediate death penalty but we dont unfortunately and never will. As things stand I still would want the death penalty. My previous post being my reasoning. 5-10 years in a high security prison then death. That's exactly my point mate.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 27,235 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Interesting report and footage on telly last night,Afghani had murdered a husband and wife,taliban had the guy hog-tied on a patch of waste ground,crowd assembeled,the murdered couples 3 daughters were led over,handed an AK,flicked onto selective single-shot,and each was allowed to put a round into their parents killer,eye-for-an-eye biblical justice type thing.Iran has a novel way of sating public blood-lust for child sex-abusers and generic pedophiles,normally they hang them in public or bulldoze a wall over them while alive Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 26,589 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 i think what is a scandel, is this guy only getting 4 years, when hes a known sex pest,,, the mind boggles at such a short sentence... got to say if it were my child, ide do my damdest to find him had he been released. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 26,589 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Interesting report and footage on telly last night,Afghani had murdered a husband and wife,taliban had the guy hog-tied on a patch of waste ground,crowd assembeled,the murdered couples 3 daughters were led over,handed an AK,flicked onto selective single-shot,and each was allowed to put a round into their parents killer,eye-for-an-eye biblical justice type thing.Iran has a novel way of sating public blood-lust for child sex-abusers and generic pedophiles,normally they hang them in public or bulldoze a wall over them while alive yes but.................they do similar things for adultery or for being gay,,, hardly fair...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 3,709 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 i think what is a scandel, is this guy only getting 4 years, when hes a known sex pest,,, the mind boggles at such a short sentence... got to say if it were my child, ide do my damdest to find him had he been released. I agree 4 years for what he did is a joke, but its theres '' childless'' social worker types that piss me off when they '' assist'' in finding them a pace to live on release , bet none of them have a convicted peado living next door to them 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Swampy 147 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 I'm so relieved that the majority of posters aren't running the country! Sense is in short supply. The folk that say "string them up" have a very blinkered view of life and all its complexities. Whilst I shall not lament the loss of this guys life and may view it as justice through the back door The actions of the perpetrators cannot and should not be condoned. Only in the news today.......Amanda Knox, a nurse getting her case overturned, jeez the news is littered with unjust decisions. Killing someone is a pretty final sentence. the guys that did this I Suspect aren't the most intelligent of our species and yet they thought that they new best how to deal with someone. Who gave them the right to be judge, jury AND executioner? News such as this should never be let out to the general public as the general public in most cases are mob rule orientated and refelct the views of the tabloids who only write what provokes and stirs anger. I suspect that many who condone whats happened, like to show their allegiance to the mob by joining in, for the calls of "kill em all". In my view that makes them no better than the guy who got killed . No doubt I shall now receive a torrent of abuse. Rgds Swampy Balanced ning you think normal everyday people who think that convicted murders should be killed are no better than a paedophile???? you are f'ckin wierd!!!! Normal! Who you trying to fool? How do you catagorise the level of severity of a crime. Who are you to decide a sentence on what has been written in the tabloid press? Re readmy post. There is a lot of verbal gesticulating by posters who have minimal knowledge of the situation. I for one would not want to put my name at the bottom of a death sentence! And if I wanted to provoke even more controversy.........................he raped two 13 year old girls the details of which we do not know. He is dead. The "eye for an eye" mob seemed to have over stepped the mark don't you think? I wonder what the view would be if it had been one of their children who had been disembowelled by two low lifes? Like I said at the beginning of my post. Thank God that some of the posters aren't running the country. Their balanced reasoning leaves a lot to be desired. It would be a very scary place to live! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tallyho 181 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 I watched a program of this rich bloke in india, where he was picking up street kids, rapeing them, then he would strangle them , leave them in some kind of acid to get rid of the bodies then he tipped into the river, now when he was caught , the courts said an eye for an eye, he was strangled, cut into 100 hundred peices for every child he killed left in acid and then he was tipped into the river. Sounds like justice done to me . When children are involved i do think they should bring back the death penalty. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 3,709 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 I watched a program of this rich bloke in india, where he was picking up street kids, rapeing them, then he would strangle them , leave them in some kind of acid to get rid of the bodies then he tipped into the river, now when he was caught , the courts said an eye for an eye, he was strangled, cut into 100 hundred peices for every child he killed left in acid and then he was tipped into the river. Sounds like justice done to me . When children are involved i do think they should bring back the death penalty. That would freak me out , i would hate to think that a child killer had been '' disposed of '' in the same place as the victims , thats just taking the piss Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 26,589 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 I'm so relieved that the majority of posters aren't running the country! Sense is in short supply. The folk that say "string them up" have a very blinkered view of life and all its complexities. Whilst I shall not lament the loss of this guys life and may view it as justice through the back door The actions of the perpetrators cannot and should not be condoned. Only in the news today.......Amanda Knox, a nurse getting her case overturned, jeez the news is littered with unjust decisions. Killing someone is a pretty final sentence. the guys that did this I Suspect aren't the most intelligent of our species and yet they thought that they new best how to deal with someone. Who gave them the right to be judge, jury AND executioner? News such as this should never be let out to the general public as the general public in most cases are mob rule orientated and refelct the views of the tabloids who only write what provokes and stirs anger. I suspect that many who condone whats happened, like to show their allegiance to the mob by joining in, for the calls of "kill em all". In my view that makes them no better than the guy who got killed . No doubt I shall now receive a torrent of abuse. Rgds Swampy Balanced ning you think normal everyday people who think that convicted murders should be killed are no better than a paedophile???? you are f'ckin wierd!!!! Normal! Who you trying to fool? How do you catagorise the level of severity of a crime. Who are you to decide a sentence on what has been written in the tabloid press? Re readmy post. There is a lot of verbal gesticulating by posters who have minimal knowledge of the situation. I for one would not want to put my name at the bottom of a death sentence! And if I wanted to provoke even more controversy.........................he raped two 13 year old girls the details of which we do not know. He is dead. The "eye for an eye" mob seemed to have over stepped the mark don't you think? I wonder what the view would be if it had been one of their children who had been disembowelled by two low lifes? Like I said at the beginning of my post. Thank God that some of the posters aren't running the country. Their balanced reasoning leaves a lot to be desired. It would be a very scary place to live! what if it had been your daughter that had been raped swampy???, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LAZYBSTARD 225 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 very nice Quote Link to post Share on other sites
North east finest 105 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 see now i hope some c**t guts them, harming a poor old defencless women is as bad as it gets so your saying its not ok to be gutted when he has raped a CHILD but its ok when one killed an old defencless woman . Do you not think the Child was defencless !! :doh: :doh: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Swampy 147 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 A Scottish nurse may have been wrongly convicted of the murders of four women, a BBC investigation suggests. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-15127072 Amanda Knox. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-15162243 So according to many of the posters on this thread. Any murderer, rapist should be left to rot in a high security prison at the mercy of the other inmates We should not be judging theses cases on what we read in the papers. I really hope that none of you lot have to suffer the type of justice you would like to see metted out only to find out that you were wrongly convicted! And I don't even like some of you! Swampy reasoned ning Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob190364 2,594 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 A Scottish nurse may have been wrongly convicted of the murders of four women, a BBC investigation suggests. http://www.bbc.co.uk...otland-15127072 Amanda Knox. http://www.bbc.co.uk...europe-15162243 So according to many of the posters on this thread. Any murderer, rapist should be left to rot in a high security prison at the mercy of the other inmates We should not be judging theses cases on what we read in the papers. I really hope that none of you lot have to suffer the type of justice you would like to see metted out only to find out that you were wrongly convicted! And I don't even like some of you! Swampy reasoned ning WHEN IT'S 100% CERTAIN THAT THEY ARE GUILTY OF THE CRIME!!! I don't think anybody is seriously saying they would make the decision to kill someone by reading a paper, obviously the person making the decision would do so based on hard evidence. You're just being a nit picking pain in the arse! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FightTheBan 1,147 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 A Scottish nurse may have been wrongly convicted of the murders of four women, a BBC investigation suggests. http://www.bbc.co.uk...otland-15127072 Amanda Knox. http://www.bbc.co.uk...europe-15162243 So according to many of the posters on this thread. Any murderer, rapist should be left to rot in a high security prison at the mercy of the other inmates We should not be judging theses cases on what we read in the papers. I really hope that none of you lot have to suffer the type of justice you would like to see metted out only to find out that you were wrongly convicted! And I don't even like some of you! Swampy reasoned ning When did you get so PC Swampy? I used to think you were alright. FTB 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Swampy 147 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 I'm so relieved that the majority of posters aren't running the country! Sense is in short supply. The folk that say "string them up" have a very blinkered view of life and all its complexities. Whilst I shall not lament the loss of this guys life and may view it as justice through the back door The actions of the perpetrators cannot and should not be condoned. Only in the news today.......Amanda Knox, a nurse getting her case overturned, jeez the news is littered with unjust decisions. Killing someone is a pretty final sentence. the guys that did this I Suspect aren't the most intelligent of our species and yet they thought that they new best how to deal with someone. Who gave them the right to be judge, jury AND executioner? News such as this should never be let out to the general public as the general public in most cases are mob rule orientated and refelct the views of the tabloids who only write what provokes and stirs anger. I suspect that many who condone whats happened, like to show their allegiance to the mob by joining in, for the calls of "kill em all". In my view that makes them no better than the guy who got killed . No doubt I shall now receive a torrent of abuse. Rgds Swampy Balanced ning you think normal everyday people who think that convicted murders should be killed are no better than a paedophile???? you are f'ckin wierd!!!! Normal! Who you trying to fool? How do you catagorise the level of severity of a crime. Who are you to decide a sentence on what has been written in the tabloid press? Re readmy post. There is a lot of verbal gesticulating by posters who have minimal knowledge of the situation. I for one would not want to put my name at the bottom of a death sentence! And if I wanted to provoke even more controversy.........................he raped two 13 year old girls the details of which we do not know. He is dead. The "eye for an eye" mob seemed to have over stepped the mark don't you think? I wonder what the view would be if it had been one of their children who had been disembowelled by two low lifes? Like I said at the beginning of my post. Thank God that some of the posters aren't running the country. Their balanced reasoning leaves a lot to be desired. It would be a very scary place to live! what if it had been your daughter that had been raped swampy???, Then I hope that I would have the strength of will not to follow my emotions and exact revenge in a manner that would be illegal.....however I do not pretend that I have that much strenght of character. Would it help my daughter? Doubtful. Would it appease my own personal outrage? I don't know but i doubt it. It is a very emotive subject and one that should be decided by others who are not driven by emotion and personal satisfaction/gratification. Which is why we have the courts which are appointed by governments who are elected by the people in a democratic fashion. Do you want to live in a country with similar laws of retribution as Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran and Saudi to name but a few? I'm sorry if my view offends you as it is not intended to offend. However it is my view and I will stand by it. I will not be a sheep ! rgds Swampy ninging for a better country Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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