Draw dogs

[lurcher330 2,297]

once the terrier has the sharp end i have no bother taking a fox by the scruff but my fcuk if i would put my hand up a tube to a cornered fox and take it out if a terrier didn't have a hold of it

[LAZYBSTARD 225]

Like I said before if you can't take a fox out of a dig whilst he's looking straight at you (terrier took away) then you shouldn't even be out trying to work a terrier.

Anyone can put a collar on a terrier.

A 5 year old child could operate a locator.

Most able men can use a shovel to some degree.

It's knowing what to do at the end that takes a terrierman.

If some one want's to work a strong dog at the end because he thinks that's a strongdogs job and it will better the breed then that's his own buissness.

But if someone sticks a 70 lb lurcher or a 40 lb strong dog in to get the game out because he might get bitten then he's a coward in my opinion and shouldn't be at this game.

What, it's ok for the terrier to get bitten, but f****d if I'll risk it.

A coward.

The best solution at the end of a dig is a firearm but a lot of us after the hunt/dig like to see our game run away (one of the beautys of terrierwork IMO compared to other fieldsports) and the quickest and most humane way on terrier and game is to use your hands.

IMO if you can't then your only someone who keeps terriers and not a terrierman, JMHO.

thanks for that neil iv just wasted 30 years of my life doing something i shouldnt have been doing any body want to buy a good fox dog and a bulldog spade ps il do a trade in for a ferret an nets

[LAZYBSTARD 225]

once the terrier has the sharp end i have no bother taking a fox by the scruff but my fcuk if i would put my hand up a tube to a cornered fox and take it out if a terrier didn't have a hold of it

your in the wrong game mate

[mighty dino 9]

You shouldn't let your lurcher draw a fox let it out to see how it does with it no way to test a lurcher!

[LAZYBSTARD 225]

You shouldn't let your lurcher draw a fox let it out to see how it does with it no way to test a lurcher!

if a lurcher can already kill one running then get it over an done with

[neil cooney 10,416]

Like I said before if you can't take a fox out of a dig whilst he's looking straight at you (terrier took away) then you shouldn't even be out trying to work a terrier.

Anyone can put a collar on a terrier.

A 5 year old child could operate a locator.

Most able men can use a shovel to some degree.

It's knowing what to do at the end that takes a terrierman.

If some one want's to work a strong dog at the end because he thinks that's a strongdogs job and it will better the breed then that's his own buissness.

But if someone sticks a 70 lb lurcher or a 40 lb strong dog in to get the game out because he might get bitten then he's a coward in my opinion and shouldn't be at this game.

What, it's ok for the terrier to get bitten, but f****d if I'll risk it.

A coward.

The best solution at the end of a dig is a firearm but a lot of us after the hunt/dig like to see our game run away (one of the beautys of terrierwork IMO compared to other fieldsports) and the quickest and most humane way on terrier and game is to use your hands.

IMO if you can't then your only someone who keeps terriers and not a terrierman, JMHO.

thanks for that neil iv just wasted 30 years of my life doing something i shouldnt have been doing any body want to buy a good fox dog and a bulldog spade ps il do a trade in for a ferret an nets

I think you should have put that post in the buy and sell section.

If your 30 years at the game and can't take a fox out (that's facing you) then IMO you haven't learned much and maybe the name you write under is very appropriate.

Edited October 5, 2011 by neil cooney

[Raymond 618]

Fair play to you sounder, showing people how its done. Its people who have experience and knowledge that wont pass it on gets up my wick. Instead of bragging about knowing how to do something,why not pass the knowledge on.Its not like the 6 winning lotto numbers being giving out.Its teaching people how to do it and do it right. Great pic by the way.Thanks. ATB Ray

[LAZYBSTARD 225]

Like I said before if you can't take a fox out of a dig whilst he's looking straight at you (terrier took away) then you shouldn't even be out trying to work a terrier.

Anyone can put a collar on a terrier.

A 5 year old child could operate a locator.

Most able men can use a shovel to some degree.

It's knowing what to do at the end that takes a terrierman.

If some one want's to work a strong dog at the end because he thinks that's a strongdogs job and it will better the breed then that's his own buissness.

But if someone sticks a 70 lb lurcher or a 40 lb strong dog in to get the game out because he might get bitten then he's a coward in my opinion and shouldn't be at this game.

What, it's ok for the terrier to get bitten, but f****d if I'll risk it.

A coward.

The best solution at the end of a dig is a firearm but a lot of us after the hunt/dig like to see our game run away (one of the beautys of terrierwork IMO compared to other fieldsports) and the quickest and most humane way on terrier and game is to use your hands.

IMO if you can't then your only someone who keeps terriers and not a terrierman, JMHO.

thanks for that neil iv just wasted 30 years of my life doing something i shouldnt have been doing any body want to buy a good fox dog and a bulldog spade ps il do a trade in for a ferret an nets

I think you should have put that post in the buy and sell section.

If your 30 years at the game and can't take a fox out (that's facing you) then IMO you haven't learned much.

looking forward to seeing your clip neil ( good luck hope you dont end up on harry hill )

Edited October 5, 2011 by LAZYBSTARD

[fish 148]

There's a lot of lads feel that way Lazy, but what's wrong with using your hands and save on the lurcher and the quarry.

It's not being macho it's being part of working terriers.

As someone said earlier if you can't handle one then you shouldn't even be using a shovel.

its simple if i go out an dig down 4 or 5 foot open the hole shovel in terrier out job done. im not diving in head first when there a lurcher standing there. and i would love to have a camcorder to see anybody sticking there hand down to lift a fox when theres no terrier on it

do it here all the time bud.more ways to get one out then most think

[Raymond 618]

Like I said before if you can't take a fox out of a dig whilst he's looking straight at you (terrier took away) then you shouldn't even be out trying to work a terrier.

Anyone can put a collar on a terrier.

A 5 year old child could operate a locator.

Most able men can use a shovel to some degree.

It's knowing what to do at the end that takes a terrierman.

If some one want's to work a strong dog at the end because he thinks that's a strongdogs job and it will better the breed then that's his own buissness.

But if someone sticks a 70 lb lurcher or a 40 lb strong dog in to get the game out because he might get bitten then he's a coward in my opinion and shouldn't be at this game.

What, it's ok for the terrier to get bitten, but f****d if I'll risk it.

A coward.

The best solution at the end of a dig is a firearm but a lot of us after the hunt/dig like to see our game run away (one of the beautys of terrierwork IMO compared to other fieldsports) and the quickest and most humane way on terrier and game is to use your hands.

IMO if you can't then your only someone who keeps terriers and not a terrierman, JMHO.

thanks for that neil iv just wasted 30 years of my life doing something i shouldnt have been doing any body want to buy a good fox dog and a bulldog spade ps il do a trade in for a ferret an nets

Ah dont be like that,I love to go ferreting still after all these years. Just on doing things and maybe different. I was quite happy ferreting the way I do and have done on and of over the years. I kind of learned as I went along. A member of here brought me ferreting and I tell you he certainly done things different to what I was doing.His methods are very successfull and you work hard for your bag of rabbits and a good bag at that. P.S. he wasnt afraid to show me his knowledge and experience.ATB Ray

[scent 509]

iv no problem handling game at the end of a dig ,iv no prob using a wheaten either .Its up to yourself what way you want to end the dig Id be fcuked if id criticise anyone over what way they ended it ,be it a lurcher ,strong dog ,or handle the quarry.

[LAZYBSTARD 225]

There's a lot of lads feel that way Lazy, but what's wrong with using your hands and save on the lurcher and the quarry.

It's not being macho it's being part of working terriers.

As someone said earlier if you can't handle one then you shouldn't even be using a shovel.

its simple if i go out an dig down 4 or 5 foot open the hole shovel in terrier out job done. im not diving in head first when there a lurcher standing there. and i would love to have a camcorder to see anybody sticking there hand down to lift a fox when theres no terrier on it

do it here all the time bud.more ways to get one out then most think

i no there is but neil is specially gifted

[Raymond 618]

iv no problem handling game at the end of a dig ,iv no prob using a wheaten either .Its up to yourself what way you want to end the dig Id be fcuked if id criticise anyone over what way they ended it ,be it a lurcher ,strong dog ,or handle the quarry.

Good man Scent. ATB Ray

[sounder 9]

There's a lot of lads feel that way Lazy, but what's wrong with using your hands and save on the lurcher and the quarry.

It's not being macho it's being part of working terriers.

As someone said earlier if you can't handle one then you shouldn't even be using a shovel.

its simple if i go out an dig down 4 or 5 foot open the hole shovel in terrier out job done. im not diving in head first when there a lurcher standing there. and i would love to have a camcorder to see anybody sticking there hand down to lift a fox when theres no terrier on it

I hope your joking Lazy. I've done it 4 times in the last week alone.

IMO it's a sad day when there's lads working terriers who can't handle game.

well bring your camcorder out next time an show me how its done from start to finish. Now dont forget i want to see him poke his head out and then you do your stuff

 

Poke his head untill he turns then you can get the back end then tail it, job done.

 

FTB

i must be doing something wrong i never get that opportunity

that make two of us lol i will handle them when i have to, when i letting them run, i use a lurcher when they are not, there with me for a bolts when beating cover , there apart of my team , i worked my dog the way to please me not the way other may like, that just me , not being hard or soft, every man to it own ,

afew on here should write a rule book :the do's and don't of terrier work; LOL

ATB sounder

[LAZYBSTARD 225]

iv no problem handling game at the end of a dig ,iv no prob using a wheaten either .Its up to yourself what way you want to end the dig Id be fcuked if id criticise anyone over what way they ended it ,be it a lurcher ,strong dog ,or handle the quarry.

scent whats the story were the new av is that the greenbay strangler hideing when the cops called