scent 509 Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 iv no problem handling game at the end of a dig ,iv no prob using a wheaten either .Its up to yourself what way you want to end the dig Id be fcuked if id criticise anyone over what way they ended it ,be it a lurcher ,strong dog ,or handle the quarry. scent whats the story were the new av is that the greenbay strangler hideing when the cops called classic pal that just made my day ,they could never put him in a line up looking like that lol Quote Link to post
stevie g 2005 125 Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 (edited) Like I said before if you can't take a fox out of a dig whilst he's looking straight at you (terrier took away) then you shouldn't even be out trying to work a terrier. Anyone can put a collar on a terrier. A 5 year old child could operate a locator. Most able men can use a shovel to some degree. It's knowing what to do at the end that takes a terrierman. If some one want's to work a strong dog at the end because he thinks that's a strongdogs job and it will better the breed then that's his own buissness. But if someone sticks a 70 lb lurcher or a 40 lb strong dog in to get the game out because he might get bitten then he's a coward in my opinion and shouldn't be at this game. What, it's ok for the terrier to get bitten, but f****d if I'll risk it. A coward. The best solution at the end of a dig is a firearm but a lot of us after the hunt/dig like to see our game run away (one of the beautys of terrierwork IMO compared to other fieldsports) and the quickest and most humane way on terrier and game is to use your hands. IMO if you can't then your only someone who keeps terriers and not a terrierman, JMHO. boys like u are whats wrong with this game sitting on this site blowing his own trumpet i never met u but i would say ur a first class prick the sort of guy that when out on a days digging u be glad to get home and have a laugh with ur mate saying how much of a cock u are Edited October 5, 2011 by stevie g 2005 1 Quote Link to post
mudd dog 128 Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 I've seen plenty of fellas that love digging but aren't too keen on getting down in and grabbing stuff out. yeah sometimes you get bit. I'd to go and get stitches this time last year and a jab, but hey that's all part and parcel of the sport. If it's in tight it's not to bad if you can tail it thats ok too, if it's headon and has a bit of breathing space I've used a stick the odd time and when it grabs the stick I grab it by the back of the scran and pull it out the f::k..... Simple as. Quote Link to post
sounder 9 Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 I've seen plenty of fellas that love digging but aren't too keen on getting down in and grabbing stuff out. yeah sometimes you get bit. I'd to go and get stitches this time last year and a jab, but hey that's all part and parcel of the sport. If it's in tight it's not to bad if you can tail it thats ok too, if it's headon and has a bit of breathing space I've used a stick the odd time and when it grabs the stick I grab it by the back of the scran and pull it out the f::k..... Simple as. nothing wrong with that thats the way you work fair play , as it being said here you have to do it with your bare hands or you not a real terrierman your a coward!!!! lol atb sounder Quote Link to post
LAZYBSTARD 225 Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 (edited) I've seen plenty of fellas that love digging but aren't too keen on getting down in and grabbing stuff out. yeah sometimes you get bit. I'd to go and get stitches this time last year and a jab, but hey that's all part and parcel of the sport. If it's in tight it's not to bad if you can tail it thats ok too, if it's headon and has a bit of breathing space I've used a stick the odd time and when it grabs the stick I grab it by the back of the scran and pull it out the f::k..... Simple as. part an parcel of the sport is getting bit part an parcel of being in the army is getting shot at but you dont see them going out without there bullet proofs stick a lurcher in or maybe yous dont have one can do the job Edited October 5, 2011 by LAZYBSTARD Quote Link to post
Raymond 618 Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 I've seen plenty of fellas that love digging but aren't too keen on getting down in and grabbing stuff out. yeah sometimes you get bit. I'd to go and get stitches this time last year and a jab, but hey that's all part and parcel of the sport. If it's in tight it's not to bad if you can tail it thats ok too, if it's headon and has a bit of breathing space I've used a stick the odd time and when it grabs the stick I grab it by the back of the scran and pull it out the f::k..... Simple as. That wasnt too hard to do. For those that dont know, now they have a couple of ideas they can try. With some people you would think they where handing over top secret information. Why do some people find it hard to pass on knowledge. I was training dogs with a very knowledgeable fella. Do you think he would tell you anything. Little did he know I was learning so much from the dogs we where working with. I would ask him something and straight onto something else he would go.Atb Ray Quote Link to post
mudd dog 128 Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 I've seen plenty of fellas that love digging but aren't too keen on getting down in and grabbing stuff out. yeah sometimes you get bit. I'd to go and get stitches this time last year and a jab, but hey that's all part and parcel of the sport. If it's in tight it's not to bad if you can tail it thats ok too, if it's headon and has a bit of breathing space I've used a stick the odd time and when it grabs the stick I grab it by the back of the scran and pull it out the f::k..... Simple as. part an parcel of the sport is getting bit part an parcel of being in the army is getting shot at but you dont see them going out without there bullet proofs stick a lurcher in or maybe yous dont have one can do the job Ha ha nah I don't keep lurchers my mates do and they're well up for the job. Thing is lurchers are breed for speed so they can catch a fox are they not ???? So we pull the fox out by hand. Your not always in a good spot to drop it so we take it into a field or area thats suitable throw it down give it a head start an then let ONE lurcher off. Now pal that is going to test a lurcher having to course it for x amount of time threw ditches/hedges etc and then when it bones the fox that's when it has to still have the power and stamina to finish the job. Throwing a lurcher into a hardend at a fox is no test whatsoever. If you do that, then its your dogs that mustn't be up to scratch to catch a fox single handed and dispatch it. Just my opinion. 1 Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 There's a lot of lads feel that way Lazy, but what's wrong with using your hands and save on the lurcher and the quarry. It's not being macho it's being part of working terriers. As someone said earlier if you can't handle one then you shouldn't even be using a shovel. its simple if i go out an dig down 4 or 5 foot open the hole shovel in terrier out job done. im not diving in head first when there a lurcher standing there. and i would love to have a camcorder to see anybody sticking there hand down to lift a fox when theres no terrier on it do it here all the time bud.more ways to get one out then most think i no there is but neil is specially gifted Lazy, nearly every terrier man I meet over the course of a season handles game confidently and often. I would say there's a lot of terrier men looking at your posts and thinking your a novice. Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Like I said before if you can't take a fox out of a dig whilst he's looking straight at you (terrier took away) then you shouldn't even be out trying to work a terrier. Anyone can put a collar on a terrier. A 5 year old child could operate a locator. Most able men can use a shovel to some degree. It's knowing what to do at the end that takes a terrierman. If some one want's to work a strong dog at the end because he thinks that's a strongdogs job and it will better the breed then that's his own buissness. But if someone sticks a 70 lb lurcher or a 40 lb strong dog in to get the game out because he might get bitten then he's a coward in my opinion and shouldn't be at this game. What, it's ok for the terrier to get bitten, but f****d if I'll risk it. A coward. The best solution at the end of a dig is a firearm but a lot of us after the hunt/dig like to see our game run away (one of the beautys of terrierwork IMO compared to other fieldsports) and the quickest and most humane way on terrier and game is to use your hands. IMO if you can't then your only someone who keeps terriers and not a terrierman, JMHO. boys like u are whats wrong with this game sitting on this site blowing his own trumpet i never met u but i would say ur a first class prick the sort of guy that when out on a days digging u be glad to get home and have a laugh with ur mate saying how much of a cock u are Well maybe it's time you did meet me. If I'm everything that's wrong with the game then I'd be a happy man. Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 No bullshit lads, but it's a very sad indication on the skill of Irish terriermen when they come out saying they can't / won't / scared to handle game. It also shows a lad who hasn't done much. 1 Quote Link to post
LAZYBSTARD 225 Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 I've seen plenty of fellas that love digging but aren't too keen on getting down in and grabbing stuff out. yeah sometimes you get bit. I'd to go and get stitches this time last year and a jab, but hey that's all part and parcel of the sport. If it's in tight it's not to bad if you can tail it thats ok too, if it's headon and has a bit of breathing space I've used a stick the odd time and when it grabs the stick I grab it by the back of the scran and pull it out the f::k..... Simple as. part an parcel of the sport is getting bit part an parcel of being in the army is getting shot at but you dont see them going out without there bullet proofs stick a lurcher in or maybe yous dont have one can do the job Ha ha nah I don't keep lurchers my mates do and they're well up for the job. Thing is lurchers are breed for speed so they can catch a fox are they not ???? So we pull the fox out by hand. Your not always in a good spot to drop it so we take it into a field or area thats suitable throw it down give it a head start an then let ONE lurcher off. Now pal that is going to test a lurcher having to course it for x amount of time threw ditches/hedges etc and then when it bones the fox that's when it has to still have the power and stamina to finish the job. Throwing a lurcher into a hardend at a fox is no test whatsoever. If you do that, then its your dogs that mustn't be up to scratch to catch a fox single handed and dispatch it. Just my opinion. any ever get away.........if im out the farmer wants to see a dead fox and thats why the lurcher there in the first place incase there a bolt Quote Link to post
LAZYBSTARD 225 Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 There's a lot of lads feel that way Lazy, but what's wrong with using your hands and save on the lurcher and the quarry. It's not being macho it's being part of working terriers. As someone said earlier if you can't handle one then you shouldn't even be using a shovel. its simple if i go out an dig down 4 or 5 foot open the hole shovel in terrier out job done. im not diving in head first when there a lurcher standing there. and i would love to have a camcorder to see anybody sticking there hand down to lift a fox when theres no terrier on it do it here all the time bud.more ways to get one out then most think i no there is but neil is specially gifted Lazy, nearly every terrier man I meet over the course of a season handles game confidently and often. I would say there's a lot of terrier men looking at your posts and thinking your a novice. i dont give a fiddler what there thinking my hands is my bread an butter and if you stick your hands into a fox your an idiot Quote Link to post
mudd dog 128 Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Yeah some get away !!! You do what you want I'm not interested. If you can't see the difference and it's plain as night and day you obviously havnt a clue. Why keep lurchers then ? a wheaten or a staff can do the same job as what your using your lurcher for !!! Hardends....!!! Quote Link to post
LAZYBSTARD 225 Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Yeah some get away !!! You do what you want I'm not interested. If you can't see the difference and it's plain as night and day you obviously havnt a clue. Why keep lurchers then ? a wheaten or a staff can do the same job as what your using your lurcher for !!! Hardends....!!! wheaten or a staffs not much good on a bolt or the lamp if im out the farmer is normally there and its a body he wants to see and if you didnt get the job done he would got somebody else.....maybe neil Quote Link to post
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