stevie g 2005 125 Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 (edited) Lurcher330 I'm fairly sure he dosent mean the dog was barking, a drawing dog who barks at his quarry needs a piece of lead between the ears I know that Dev but i have seen some half arsed draw dogs bay their quarry for 5 mins before going into grips and then scream like a bannshie while drawing. lurcher330 if u are still standing after 5 mins of the dog baying waiting for the dog to go to grips mate is it worth feeding i agree with dev in what hes saying Edited October 5, 2011 by stevie g 2005 Quote Link to post
lurcher330 2,297 Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 (edited) Lurcher330 I'm fairly sure he dosent mean the dog was barking, a drawing dog who barks at his quarry needs a piece of lead between the ears I know that Dev but i have seen some half arsed draw dogs bay their quarry for 5 mins before going into grips and then scream like a bannshie while drawing. lurcher330 if u are still standing after 5 mins of the dog baying waiting for the dog to go to grips u would need to look at urself mate and is it worth feeding i agree with dev in what hes saying i wouldn't own a dog that does that and that's what im saying if a lurcher it might be ok at other jobs but if it's a full wheaten it shouldn't leave the field so i agree with you and dev also but if i don't own the dog what can i do Edited October 5, 2011 by lurcher330 Quote Link to post
LAZYBSTARD 225 Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Lurcher330 I'm fairly sure he dosent mean the dog was barking, a drawing dog who barks at his quarry needs a piece of lead between the ears I know that Dev but i have seen some half arsed draw dogs bay their quarry for 5 mins before going into grips and then scream like a bannshie while drawing. lurcher330 if u are still standing after 5 mins of the dog baying waiting for the dog to go to grips mate is it worth feeding i agree with dev in what hes saying id rather have a lurcher for the job than feed a wheaten or a staff Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 There's a lot of lads feel that way Lazy, but what's wrong with using your hands and save on the lurcher and the quarry. It's not being macho it's being part of working terriers. As someone said earlier if you can't handle one then you shouldn't even be using a shovel. Quote Link to post
LAZYBSTARD 225 Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 There's a lot of lads feel that way Lazy, but what's wrong with using your hands and save on the lurcher and the quarry. It's not being macho it's being part of working terriers. As someone said earlier if you can't handle one then you shouldn't even be using a shovel. its simple if i go out an dig down 4 or 5 foot open the hole shovel in terrier out job done. im not diving in head first when there a lurcher standing there. and i would love to have a camcorder to see anybody sticking there hand down to lift a fox when theres no terrier on it Quote Link to post
Brummy 9 Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 There's a lot of lads feel that way Lazy, but what's wrong with using your hands and save on the lurcher and the quarry. It's not being macho it's being part of working terriers. As someone said earlier if you can't handle one then you shouldn't even be using a shovel. its simple if i go out an dig down 4 or 5 foot open the hole shovel in terrier out job done. im not diving in head first when there a lurcher standing there. and i would love to have a camcorder to see anybody sticking there hand down to lift a fox when theres no terrier on it Well I've seen it done many times by lads who know exactly what they're doing and they do it regularly. I've seen one lad draw 4 foxes from the same earth whilst being held by and then pulled out by his skinny little Yorkshire ankles. That occasion made it into a nice terrier book and I took the photos of the event unfolding. Yes indeedy ! 1 Quote Link to post
Raymond 618 Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 There's a lot of lads feel that way Lazy, but what's wrong with using your hands and save on the lurcher and the quarry. It's not being macho it's being part of working terriers. As someone said earlier if you can't handle one then you shouldn't even be using a shovel. its simple if i go out an dig down 4 or 5 foot open the hole shovel in terrier out job done. im not diving in head first when there a lurcher standing there. and i would love to have a camcorder to see anybody sticking there hand down to lift a fox when theres no terrier on it Well I've seen it done many times by lads who know exactly what they're doing and they do it regularly. I've seen one lad draw 4 foxes from the same earth whilst being held by and then pulled out by his skinny little Yorkshire ankles. That occasion made it into a nice terrier book and I took the photos of the event unfolding. Yes indeedy ! Why dont you educate us and pass on the wisdom and knowledge you have. ATB Ray 1 Quote Link to post
LAZYBSTARD 225 Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 There's a lot of lads feel that way Lazy, but what's wrong with using your hands and save on the lurcher and the quarry. It's not being macho it's being part of working terriers. As someone said earlier if you can't handle one then you shouldn't even be using a shovel. its simple if i go out an dig down 4 or 5 foot open the hole shovel in terrier out job done. im not diving in head first when there a lurcher standing there. and i would love to have a camcorder to see anybody sticking there hand down to lift a fox when theres no terrier on it Well I've seen it done many times by lads who know exactly what they're doing and they do it regularly. I've seen one lad draw 4 foxes from the same earth whilst being held by and then pulled out by his skinny little Yorkshire ankles. That occasion made it into a nice terrier book and I took the photos of the event unfolding. Yes indeedy ! was it a plummer book 1 Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 There's a lot of lads feel that way Lazy, but what's wrong with using your hands and save on the lurcher and the quarry. It's not being macho it's being part of working terriers. As someone said earlier if you can't handle one then you shouldn't even be using a shovel. its simple if i go out an dig down 4 or 5 foot open the hole shovel in terrier out job done. im not diving in head first when there a lurcher standing there. and i would love to have a camcorder to see anybody sticking there hand down to lift a fox when theres no terrier on it I hope your joking Lazy. I've done it 4 times in the last week alone. IMO it's a sad day when there's lads working terriers who can't handle game. Quote Link to post
LAZYBSTARD 225 Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 There's a lot of lads feel that way Lazy, but what's wrong with using your hands and save on the lurcher and the quarry. It's not being macho it's being part of working terriers. As someone said earlier if you can't handle one then you shouldn't even be using a shovel. its simple if i go out an dig down 4 or 5 foot open the hole shovel in terrier out job done. im not diving in head first when there a lurcher standing there. and i would love to have a camcorder to see anybody sticking there hand down to lift a fox when theres no terrier on it I hope your joking Lazy. I've done it 4 times in the last week alone. IMO it's a sad day when there's lads working terriers who can't handle game. well bring your camcorder out next time an show me how its done from start to finish. Now dont forget i want to see him poke his head out and then you do your stuff Quote Link to post
FightTheBan 1,147 Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 There's a lot of lads feel that way Lazy, but what's wrong with using your hands and save on the lurcher and the quarry. It's not being macho it's being part of working terriers. As someone said earlier if you can't handle one then you shouldn't even be using a shovel. its simple if i go out an dig down 4 or 5 foot open the hole shovel in terrier out job done. im not diving in head first when there a lurcher standing there. and i would love to have a camcorder to see anybody sticking there hand down to lift a fox when theres no terrier on it I hope your joking Lazy. I've done it 4 times in the last week alone. IMO it's a sad day when there's lads working terriers who can't handle game. well bring your camcorder out next time an show me how its done from start to finish. Now dont forget i want to see him poke his head out and then you do your stuff Poke his head untill he turns then you can get the back end then tail it, job done. FTB Quote Link to post
LAZYBSTARD 225 Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 There's a lot of lads feel that way Lazy, but what's wrong with using your hands and save on the lurcher and the quarry. It's not being macho it's being part of working terriers. As someone said earlier if you can't handle one then you shouldn't even be using a shovel. its simple if i go out an dig down 4 or 5 foot open the hole shovel in terrier out job done. im not diving in head first when there a lurcher standing there. and i would love to have a camcorder to see anybody sticking there hand down to lift a fox when theres no terrier on it I hope your joking Lazy. I've done it 4 times in the last week alone. IMO it's a sad day when there's lads working terriers who can't handle game. well bring your camcorder out next time an show me how its done from start to finish. Now dont forget i want to see him poke his head out and then you do your stuff Poke his head untill he turns then you can get the back end then tail it, job done. FTB i must be doing something wrong i never get that opportunity Quote Link to post
LAZYBSTARD 225 Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 great pic there sounder Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Like I said before if you can't take a fox out of a dig whilst he's looking straight at you (terrier took away) then you shouldn't even be out trying to work a terrier. Anyone can put a collar on a terrier. A 5 year old child could operate a locator. Most able men can use a shovel to some degree. It's knowing what to do at the end that takes a terrierman. If some one want's to work a strong dog at the end because he thinks that's a strongdogs job and it will better the breed then that's his own buissness. But if someone sticks a 70 lb lurcher or a 40 lb strong dog in to get the game out because he might get bitten then he's a coward in my opinion and shouldn't be at this game. What, it's ok for the terrier to get bitten, but f****d if I'll risk it. A coward. The best solution at the end of a dig is a firearm but a lot of us after the hunt/dig like to see our game run away (one of the beautys of terrierwork IMO compared to other fieldsports) and the quickest and most humane way on terrier and game is to use your hands. IMO if you can't then your only someone who keeps terriers and not a terrierman, JMHO. 3 Quote Link to post
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