paulus 26 Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 always run doubled father and son theyve ran togeather as long as theyve been able to day and night, had a few heart in mouth moments early on but now they seem to know the game the son is 4 this december they retrieve togeather aswell. carnt see a problem if it was a pack of dogs in the wild then why would only one hunt at a time??? they would work as a team. this only run one shite is more to do with the owners ego than the dogs Quote Link to post
trigger2 3,143 Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 aye from the competion trigger2 is that what you mean doubled up, obviously only one dog can put a catch in but the odds do turn in your favour having two dogs on them surely. you are right tho mate when doubled it ain't always the best dog that gets the catches. the way to sort that is see them single like you agree that gives you a true indication to how good they are, do you agree trigger2 or do you think different true running single handed is the only way to see a dogs true potential. quarry runs different with 2 dogs on it and it dont always work in the dogs favour being doubled up as it hears two dogs before one and sets off earlier at times. they also do get in each others way at times an miss alot of quarry that a single handed dog would have been able to taken, then on the other hand they catch quarry that a single handed dog wouldnt be able to catch. theres alot of pros and cons with both methods Quote Link to post
bryson 562 Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 i ran the dog in my avitar doubled up on the lamp for the first time when he was 11 month he was running with a very experienced dog but it ended in disaster when he ran full pelt in to the older dogs side breaking 2 of its ribs so it will be single all the way with the new whippet Quote Link to post
malc1 544 Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 fair enough fella, Think you summed it up lol not like you had to, was just being nosey lol gotta sort a night out soon altho my bitch will be ran single where she shines haha lol we must get together soon ill put my dog on the lead he will saulk like mad you will see him shine he goes that fast he glowes ha ha Quote Link to post
nighteyes 275 Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 imo running doubled on rabbits etc just fecks up good dogs, smashed up rabbits fecks up retrevie etc, but pre ban on other things dont mind doubled or single all to do with what ya running but rabbits i think running doubled just no need at all even with pups but each to there own Quote Link to post
Moorsman 17 Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 Doubled up dogs on rabbit Jesus if it can't do it don't keep it Quote Link to post
trigger2 3,143 Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 (edited) my pup will be run single and double mostly double i know what my big dog can do and ill find out what my pup can do next season im not out to wipe out the world of rabbits so ill keep doing what ive done since i started atb fair enough fella, how long you been in the game for then ? out of interest how long you ran then from pups from the start or did someone teach you lol heard you need to be very experienced to use this method lol pm if you like depends on how much you want from your dog Edited September 29, 2011 by trigger2 Quote Link to post
nitestalker 28 209 Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 always like to run them on there on but will run them from time 2 time doubled wit sum mates for the crack but will hav to be doin it singled handed or wont be stayin in my yard atb Quote Link to post
Tally Ho Hunter 60 Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 i will double up a couple of times just to get a pup going on bigger stuff but never should adult dogs be doubled up i think its a discrase. Quote Link to post
Moll. 1,770 Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 carnt see a problem if it was a pack of dogs in the wild then why would only one hunt at a time??? they would work as a team. this only run one shite is more to do with the owners ego than the dogs Wild dogs do not run in the same way running dogs do, completely different style and speed. Nothing to do with ego, just safety for the dog, and the 1-1 hunter vs prey is still something i love to watch, not get as many dogs on it to eradicate it. Quote Link to post
lurcher330 2,297 Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 wouldn't bother doubling up on rabbits 'let the dogs take turns one after the other but when we come across a fox we might double up not because the dogs cant do them single handed just because we might not get enough chances to give the dogs them on their own and when you have been sliping on rabbits all night we like to give our dogs a red fella to for a change but if foxes were as plentyful as rabbits they would only get them single handed Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 carnt see a problem if it was a pack of dogs in the wild then why would only one hunt at a time??? they would work as a team. this only run one shite is more to do with the owners ego than the dogs Wild dogs do not run in the same way running dogs do, completely different style and speed. Nothing to do with ego, just safety for the dog, and the 1-1 hunter vs prey is still something i love to watch, not get as many dogs on it to eradicate it. as i said 4 years now no injurys due to them running togeather and to be honest the older dog ran with his father aswell. i will run them on there own usually if im out with someone else but if im on my own then always as a pair, there is no more damage to the meat than if they were running on their own and double live retrieves of rabbits is normal. you only get the tug of war thing with dogs that are not use to running togeather. Quote Link to post
Plong 21 Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 Greyhounds where always run doubled up on hares and never seen a injury caused by this. Also when bolting with ferrets we often have 2 dogs loose never been a problem. Quote Link to post
torchey 1,327 Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 If you are going to double up I think one of the keys to it is when you slip the dogs. If you're going to slip one half way through a run you've got to make sure they're not going to meet head on or you're just asking for trouble. If done properly and you're out for numbers or, for the 'irish lads' - after charlie, then i don't see the problem with it. It can be a handy way of bringing a pup on as well, running it with an experienced dog. I've done this a few of nights over the last couple of weeks and my pup is a lot more switched on now on the lamp. Just my thoughts - I'm sure there'll be plenty of people who disagree. If you slip another dog halfway through a run your asking for trouble... Quote Link to post
hunt and fish 35 Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 Only benifit with doubling up is you will get more fox missed 1 last night turned it 3 or 4 times but got away through a hedge Quote Link to post
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