best x 100s of threads but...........

[the night hunter 130]

Hi,

 

Every week there sems to be a topic on "whats the best x" i read them because im interested in everyones view. It is very much horses for courses and peoples general preferense and needs but............

 

I think the main component HAS to be SPEED i personally feel there is no substitute for speed because no matter how clever, tough, determind your dog is if it cant get to its quarry then all these things are redundent. Just my opinion whats yours.

 

Im not talking about what x is best here mainly the componants needed to make a dog sucsessfull.

 

interested in your thoughts.

[Ideation 8,216]

As long as it's fast enough, it doesn't have to be super fast. If that makes sense.

 

Look at the Don dog. . . . . . 5/8 collie i believe, and putting a lot of the super fast speed merchants to shame.

[the night hunter 130]

As long as it's fast enough, it doesn't have to be super fast. If that makes sense.

 

Look at the Don dog. . . . . . 5/8 collie i believe, and putting a lot of the super fast speed merchants to shame.

 

 

Im sure there are exceptins to the rule. i have a first x bull and she can catch rabbits well just because of here sheer determination but im sure that my rough coated bich would piss all over her if i were to match them together based on the fact she will be there first!

[Guest born to run1083]

As long as it's fast enough, it doesn't have to be super fast. If that makes sense.

 

Look at the Don dog. . . . . . 5/8 collie i believe, and putting a lot of the super fast speed merchants to shame.

speed helps in some situations but it's not the be all of lurcher work just as ideation said

[watchman 256]

speed...............some dogs to quick for their own good

[Ideation 8,216]

I know what you are saying mate and the dog needs to be fats enough to get on terms with the rabbit, but it just isn't that simple.

 

You can take a pure grey and a half x collie grey up on the hills or in small paddocks and walk away with more bunnies to the half x no problem.

 

So no it ain't just about what is fastest. It's about a combination of speed, agility, grit, brains etc etc and that certain special something.

[the night hunter 130]

I know what you are saying mate and the dog needs to be fats enough to get on terms with the rabbit, but it just isn't that simple.

 

You can take a pure grey and a half x collie grey up on the hills or in small paddocks and walk away with more bunnies to the half x no problem.

 

So no it ain't just about what is fastest. It's about a combination of speed, agility, grit, brains etc etc and that certain special something.

 

ok sure understand what you are saying. so do you think ALL of these things are possible in 1 dog?

[MOO 730]

wind ,feet, heart ,size,strength ,strike ,conformation even brains would all come before speed for me...if speed was the most important atribute we would all be running greyhounds

Edited September 28, 2011 by MOO

[FUJI 17,156]

wind ,feet, heart ,size,strength ,strike ,conformation even brains would all come before speed for me...if speed was the most important atribute we would all be running greyhounds

 

Aye..couldn't agree more Moo ...it all boils down to the type of ground you hunt on really though? ATB Andy.

Edited September 28, 2011 by poacherspocket22

[the night hunter 130]

wind ,feet, heart ,size,strength ,strike ,conformation even brains would all come before speed for me...if speed was the most important atribute we would all be running greyhounds

Aye..couldn't agree more Moo .ATB Andy.

 

i dont disagree but i think u miss what im sayin is imo the primary compnent should be speed.

 

say you are breeding a dog. i would pick a tested dog but a quick one then build on that with the otther nessasary essential bits n bobs

[KittleRox 2,147]

I know what you are saying mate and the dog needs to be fats enough to get on terms with the rabbit, but it just isn't that simple.

 

You can take a pure grey and a half x collie grey up on the hills or in small paddocks and walk away with more bunnies to the half x no problem.

 

So no it ain't just about what is fastest. It's about a combination of speed, agility, grit, brains etc etc and that certain special something.

Agreed, if its just bunnys speed ain,t everything

[frankel 2,123]

As long as it's fast enough, it doesn't have to be super fast. If that makes sense.

 

Look at the Don dog. . . . . . 5/8 collie i believe, and putting a lot of the super fast speed merchants to shame.

[frankel 2,123]

i would say it depended on what kinda land you ran on & surely if you were going for decent scores on rabbits you would need combinations of stamina, speed, agility, good feet, determination, strike etc etc...

[Mick C. 229]

Over shooting can sometimes be a drawbackl

 

And if the gears arnt there when they get to the rabbit it usually ends with three sommersaults one rabbit and a lame dog

 

Great to watch but very dangerous

[Simoman 110]

wind ,feet, heart ,size,strength ,strike ,conformation even brains would all come before speed for me...if speed was the most important atribute we would all be running greyhounds

Aye..couldn't agree more Moo .ATB Andy.

 

i dont disagree but i think u miss what im sayin is imo the primary compnent should be speed.

 

say you are breeding a dog. i would pick a tested dog but a quick one then build on that with the otther nessasary essential bits n bobs

 

 

Agree with the lads above, for me in no way is speed thhe primary component, a dogs needs to be fast enough, but all those things are far more important to me than speed, when thinking of continuing a line, who thinks that speed is the main attribute? Not me or anyone i know.........