dogs in falconry

[saxonmaster 74]

Just would like to know how many of you use dogs in falconry and what dogs you use. I planned on getting a 2nd lurcher but now really thinking on getting a dog for falconry maybe a german or english pointer but would like to hear your thoughts and views. Also does anyone use a lurcher and if so how does that work im sure i have read on here that some are using lurchers. Can anyone suggest any good books, dvds or anyother information on training a dog to use in falconry and the different breeds and characteristics. Thanks

[arcticgun 4,548]

i useboth my saluki and terrier to flush rabbits etc for my harris,maybe not as handy as a gwp etc but does for my needs, she is fine with all my dogs and ferrets,

Edited September 28, 2011 by arcticgun

[paulus 26]

as long as it respects the bird and does the job you can use any dog, however its alot more handy if it will, hunt and then go on point as this will give you the chance to get into the best possition for a sucesfull flight

[grovsey 74]

if ur getting a pointer you got to think the dog will not be bolting rabbits for you as the dog has to be encouraged to point not bolt game.for that you want a springer (i got 3) or a cocker ,both are great dog as long as you train them proper and keep ontop of one ,but that said so does a point need to be trained propper,

im training a pup springer at the mo and she is 8 month old and she has not been allowed to bolt any game and wont be worked proper till next season ,your dog has to be rock steady and more so around falconry birds

a english setter needs alot of open space to run propper and suits imo moorland ,

there is a dog for every occasion

p.s i would not have a running dog working with game as you know they want to chase the quarry as much as the bird does

pps dont disregard the vizsla as (i got one )

Edited September 28, 2011 by grovsey

[saxonmaster 74]

if ur getting a pointer you got to think the dog will not be bolting rabbits for you as the dog has to be encouraged to point not bolt game.for that you want a springer (i got 3) or a cocker ,both are great dog as long as you train them proper and keep ontop of one ,but that said so does a point need to be trained propper,

im training a pup springer at the mo and she is 8 month old and she has not been allowed to bolt any game and wont be worked proper till next season ,your dog has to be rock steady and more so around falconry birds

a english setter needs alot of open space to run propper and suits imo moorland ,

there is a dog for every occasion

p.s i would not have a running dog working with game as you know they want to chase the quarry as much as the bird does

pps dont disregard the vizsla as (i got one )

 

That is my worry with my lurcher as i know if a rabbit breaks cover my lurcher will give chase and i think it would be unfair to tell him to leave it as i have been training him for 2 years nearly to chase and catch rabbits. they get on fine when out and dont bother each other at all but saying that a rabbit has never been chased when i have had them both out together. I think i would prefer a pointer but wouldnt rule out a springer or cocker as i would like to use a dog for rough shooting and working with the lurcher. What do you prefer mate springer or cocker and how different are they in the field. Do you have any books or dvds that you would recommend to get some information off we have a gun dog training coarse not far from me which ill be going to see at some point.

[saxonmaster 74]

sorry just reread your post you obviously prefer springers as you have 3 sorry silly question

[grovsey 74]

if ur getting a pointer you got to think the dog will not be bolting rabbits for you as the dog has to be encouraged to point not bolt game.for that you want a springer (i got 3) or a cocker ,both are great dog as long as you train them proper and keep ontop of one ,but that said so does a point need to be trained propper,

im training a pup springer at the mo and she is 8 month old and she has not been allowed to bolt any game and wont be worked proper till next season ,your dog has to be rock steady and more so around falconry birds

a english setter needs alot of open space to run propper and suits imo moorland ,

there is a dog for every occasion

p.s i would not have a running dog working with game as you know they want to chase the quarry as much as the bird does

pps dont disregard the vizsla as (i got one )

 

That is my worry with my lurcher as i know if a rabbit breaks cover my lurcher will give chase and i think it would be unfair to tell him to leave it as i have been training him for 2 years nearly to chase and catch rabbits. they get on fine when out and dont bother each other at all but saying that a rabbit has never been chased when i have had them both out together. I think i would prefer a pointer but wouldnt rule out a springer or cocker as i would like to use a dog for rough shooting and working with the lurcher. What do you prefer mate springer or cocker and how different are they in the field. Do you have any books or dvds that you would recommend to get some information off we have a gun dog training coarse not far from me which ill be going to see at some point.

if u want if for rough shooting also id go for a springer and there amazing dogs ,will work all day for you but u have to keep ontop of them as give them and inch they will take 3 miles,ian openshaw does a series of dvd and he is the main man and when u seem him training he is so calm ,also with ur land if u got cover pointers dont like to go into cover at all ,yes there is the brittany spanial (ugly f@@kers ) but not at all my thing ,

also as i was saying u dont want a pointer ever chasing game

[saxonmaster 74]

if ur getting a pointer you got to think the dog will not be bolting rabbits for you as the dog has to be encouraged to point not bolt game.for that you want a springer (i got 3) or a cocker ,both are great dog as long as you train them proper and keep ontop of one ,but that said so does a point need to be trained propper,

im training a pup springer at the mo and she is 8 month old and she has not been allowed to bolt any game and wont be worked proper till next season ,your dog has to be rock steady and more so around falconry birds

a english setter needs alot of open space to run propper and suits imo moorland ,

there is a dog for every occasion

p.s i would not have a running dog working with game as you know they want to chase the quarry as much as the bird does

pps dont disregard the vizsla as (i got one )

 

That is my worry with my lurcher as i know if a rabbit breaks cover my lurcher will give chase and i think it would be unfair to tell him to leave it as i have been training him for 2 years nearly to chase and catch rabbits. they get on fine when out and dont bother each other at all but saying that a rabbit has never been chased when i have had them both out together. I think i would prefer a pointer but wouldnt rule out a springer or cocker as i would like to use a dog for rough shooting and working with the lurcher. What do you prefer mate springer or cocker and how different are they in the field. Do you have any books or dvds that you would recommend to get some information off we have a gun dog training coarse not far from me which ill be going to see at some point.

if u want if for rough shooting also id go for a springer and there amazing dogs ,will work all day for you but u have to keep ontop of them as give them and inch they will take 3 miles,ian openshaw does a series of dvd and he is the main man and when u seem him training he is so calm ,also with ur land if u got cover pointers dont like to go into cover at all ,yes there is the brittany spanial (ugly f@@kers ) but not at all my thing ,

also as i was saying u dont want a pointer ever chasing game

 

yeah your right no point having a pointer to chase will look into those dvds then mate. i do have ground with cover and i never knew that pointers wont go in cover that might change things a bit then. what about cockers mate do they need to be kept on top of like the springer?

[grovsey 74]

ya cockers are the same its all about good foundation mate and doing the same thing all the time,there working dogs not pets that how you got to look at them first and for most ,

make sure you get a good working ped with lots of ftch in them more recent than past ,the youngest spanial i got at the mo has about 50 over 5 generation ,was sired by a ftch and see it going thorugh the bloodline,i paid £450 so give you an idea and make sure u get one docked

[saxonmaster 74]

ya cockers are the same its all about good foundation mate and doing the same thing all the time,there working dogs not pets that how you got to look at them first and for most ,

make sure you get a good working ped with lots of ftch in them more recent than past ,the youngest spanial i got at the mo has about 50 over 5 generation ,was sired by a ftch and see it going thorugh the bloodline,i paid £450 so give you an idea and make sure u get one docked

 

Thats quality mate thanks for all that ill let you know how i get on and what breed i go for cheers

[shello 6]

think my next dog will be German Shorthaired or Wirehaired Pointer or possibly another Weimaraner (had one over 20 years ago)

[grovsey 74]

think my next dog will be German Shorthaired or Wirehaired Pointer or possibly another Weimaraner (had one over 20 years ago)

if u got heavy cover shello to work that the wrong type of dog my as u want a bramble basher .pointers suit gos and falcons far better and they can tend to rain outr far

[jasper65 6]

I have a Brittany that likes to range out a fair way which is probably down to me and my training. it points well and even used to point the flys around its food bowl when it was a pup. Its now 4 and still pretty scatty although it has calmed down a bit. the best soution for this dog before its worked is to get it out and let its burn up some energy first before any seriouse work is done with it

[saxonmaster 74]

I have a Brittany that likes to range out a fair way which is probably down to me and my training. it points well and even used to point the flys around its food bowl when it was a pup. Its now 4 and still pretty scatty although it has calmed down a bit. the best soution for this dog before its worked is to get it out and let its burn up some energy first before any seriouse work is done with it

 

Nice looking dog mate, what was it like to train? after speaking to grovesy i think ill be going for a springer rather than a pointer now

[grovsey 74]

billy dont get one of them ulgy brittanys lol everyone will take the pea out of you lol

look at this for a looker

Edited September 29, 2011 by grovsey