leedetek 9 Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 i had a first cross doberman, greyhound in the ,s . it looked a smart enough dog but was thick as shit, and had no real drive about it. perhaps i was unlucky with mine as you get good and bad in any breed. Quote Link to post
Millet 4,497 Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Bit of a sweeping generalisation of a breed, that Simmo !!!This one was far from thick, had pleanty of fire, and not a sign of nervousness ! I owned her for over 12 years, she was bred in Holland from German stock, I got her in Saudi and brought her back here. As for the "Urban Myth" of them turning on their master, well, she never turned on me, or anyone else for that matter ! I probably trusted her more than any other dog I've owned. Cheers. My uncle owned one back in the 's and 90's and it was a very similar stamp to your old bitch..he was a big heavy dog and far from thick quite the opposite really...the litter sister to him was the same stamp but smaller and that was far from thick either.. I suppose it's like everything if you get the right line's you are on a winner but sadley most folk just breed for money now and use anything..that will be why they are more like big whippet's in this day and age. Quote Link to post
Casso 1,261 Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 The yanks used the dobermann in world war 2 in the pacific to great effect, and in the same way as most other breeds go when the general public decide they fancy the look of a dog for their home, breeders start breeding for friendliness not purpose, when you start breeding for a family friendly dog you lose drive, highly driven dogs are just to much for the average household, the dog still looks the same as the original but with less heart or bottle, 1 Quote Link to post
chook1 184 Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 I have trained a few dobermanns they were thick as pigshit and had no drive or desire, males especially were big heavy idiots. Sorry to generalise chartpolski. I wouldnt introduce this blood into a hunting dog. The 3 i owned were certainly not thick - all 3 English bred my pup got poised when she was around a year old and died but the dog and bitch both had drive - put it one way no one came near our house if them buggers got out and were in the front garden - both did there jobs well (guard dogs) both walked off lead everywhere actually they didn't know what a lead was. Quote Link to post
molehole 1 Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 heres the first pic of the puppies, post the next pic in three weeks time as they start to develop more. Quote Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 The question is why the hell would you use a Doberman when you can use a collie? Quote Link to post
gaza 508 Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 My dad bred a litter in the 's out of my uncles doberman. A lot of the pups got parvo and my grandad actually accidentally sold the pick of the litter lol so my dad ended up with the heaviest bitch. She was about 25 inches and a deep red colour. It turned out a decent bitch on the rabbits and knocked a few hares over, but she never saw anything else. Shes still my dads best rabbiting bitch to this day, but whether thats the cross or the amount of time he put into her as a young man? I'll get a pic up if i can get the scanner working. Quote Link to post
molehole 1 Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 The question is why the hell would you use a Doberman when you can use a collie? to give a bigger frame might have been good pre ban on bigger game maby? Quote Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 The question is why the hell would you use a Doberman when you can use a collie? to give a bigger frame might have been good pre ban on bigger game maby? Wouldn't adding deerhound be much better? Quote Link to post
molehole 1 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 The question is why the hell would you use a Doberman when you can use a collie? to give a bigger frame might have been good pre ban on bigger game maby? Wouldn't adding deerhound be much better? well i asume when you say use a collie its to add brains/biddability to the mix ? somthing a dobermann has. im not saying the deerhound is not inteligent but i dont think biddability is its strong point? Quote Link to post
iceman001979 1,316 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Why not use a doberman in a make up a lucher??????There as been so many crosses some that worked and some that have not you never know until you try it.When people started using jackrussells,borders,collies,wheaten s,pits,staffs,G shepherd,labs,pointers,foxhounds,harrier hounds, etc etc the list goes on and on did we know at the start that this would all work out?????At the end day the only people that judge this cross is the people have run one or seen one work .Everything else is hear say Quote Link to post
robwelsh 354 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 You'd be better off with a deerhound/greyhound ,and as for the comment they look like greyhounds..I couldn't disagree more Quote Link to post
robwelsh 354 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Why not use a doberman in a make up a lucher??????There as been so many crosses some that worked and some that have not you never know until you try it.When people started using jackrussells,borders,collies,wheaten s,pits,staffs,G shepherd,labs,pointers,foxhounds,harrier hounds, etc etc the list goes on and on did we know at the start that this would all work out?????At the end day the only people that judge this cross is the people have run one or seen one work .Everything else is hear say what people are saying is if they don't work out...therel be another added shit bit to lurchers ...there's enuff crosses for every purpose ...why risk it 1 Quote Link to post
jeppi26 1,855 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Why not use a doberman in a make up a lucher?????? Because there is lots of xs out there to use on bunnys never mind bringing another pointless breed into the game what is a doberman going to bring to the lurcher world that the xs we av carnt? Quote Link to post
iceman001979 1,316 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Why not use a doberman in a make up a lucher??????There as been so many crosses some that worked and some that have not you never know until you try it.When people started using jackrussells,borders,collies,wheaten s,pits,staffs,G shepherd,labs,pointers,foxhounds,harrier hounds, etc etc the list goes on and on did we know at the start that this would all work out?????At the end day the only people that judge this cross is the people have run one or seen one work .Everything else is hear say what people are saying is if they don't work out...therel be another added shit bit to lurchers ...there's enuff crosses for every purpose ...why risk it If they dont work out out you do the right thing put it down.To many people try different crosses as l said some work out and others don't .What peoples proplems is that the ones that dont work out they dont do the right thing Quote Link to post
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