karl8962 1 Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 i have s200 mk1 if i put 160 in its fine anything over the pellets drop short am right to think 160 not enough Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 Hi Karl, PCP's that are regulated in such a way as the S200 have what is known as a Power Curve Sweet-Spot. The manuals usually tell you to fill to 200 Bar. However the gun will perform optimally during its sweet spot. My own S200 I fill to 185 to 190. This allows me to fire a few shots before I zero. The sweet spot will vary from gun to gun, but not by much. I get optimum performance ie: 1/2 inch group at 30-35 yards from 180 all the way down to 100/110 bar. If I fill up to 200 bar, then the gun becomes very inconsistant delivering poor accuracy and varying in power from 11.5 down to as little as 6 ft/lbs! Once into the sweet spot, it delivers a very reasonable constant output and giving me the accuracy for which the S200 is known for. After I've fired enough shots and the pressure drops below 100 the gun become very inconsistant again and then eventually vents the rest of the air completely. Are you sure that your guage is functioning correctly? Tony Quote Link to post
secretagentmole 1,701 Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 depends on the S200 Phantom, some, such variants, such as the T200 were only meant to be filled to 170 bar! Honsest, Mary had one, 170 bar fill only. So it depends on the model, if it fires best at 160, enjoy firing it at 160! Quote Link to post
bmwmotard 15 Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 depends on the S200 Phantom, some, such variants, such as the T200 were only meant to be filled to 170 bar! Honsest, Mary had one, 170 bar fill only. So it depends on the model, if it fires best at 160, enjoy firing it at 160! Or you tune it like I did...isn't it Michael? I have modified one of mine and the thing shoots 20 good pellets now at 28 ftp..... wouhaaaaaaaa. 210 bar... Sweet spot between 200 and 160 bar and then it's over.... wouhaaaaa I only need 1 pellet to hit the target in the middle.... so Ihave 19 left...heehehehehhehe :whistling: :toast: :boogy: (lol) Quote Link to post
secretagentmole 1,701 Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 Stefaan some were only designed to be 7.5 joule target versions, these were also altered to make 16 joule (12 foot pound), but the mechanism still ran best at 170 bar maximum! Quote Link to post
bmwmotard 15 Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 Stefaan some were only designed to be 7.5 joule target versions, these were also altered to make 16 joule (12 foot pound), but the mechanism still ran best at 170 bar maximum! That's correct .... I have a 7.5 overhere now (a mk 2 version CZ s200 T wich hase a leakingproblem) from customer. I know it runs extremely correct on the bottle with a constant 165 bar. When his one is reapaired he want to lett it run around 15 -18 ftp and give's the weapon to his son for shooting in the club. It's nothing serious (only a seal that is leaking... but I don't have found the time yet to do it and to test it... I just have done a other project on a BSA Lonestar 6.35 .... now shooting a bit more then 108 ftp (25 pellets) over the chrono and a + // - from less then 1 %.... shooting with 42 grains homemade pellets. grgrgrgrgrgrgr :whistling: :whistling: :boogy: :boogy: Quote Link to post
secretagentmole 1,701 Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 (edited) The seal behind that gauge? Noted for it, that is what happened to Mary's one! Lucky you have no power limit in Belgium, shame you cannot hunt with them though! Edited September 27, 2011 by secretagentmole 1 Quote Link to post
bmwmotard 15 Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 Within his price class it's one of the best weapons I ever had. I have a AAs220 (see my pic on the left side) wich I took with me the last huntingtrip in the UK. I modified so that it takes about 2 minutes to increase the powerlevel back under the 12 ftp... It's been putted on my European weapon pass so it is NOT needed to turn down the power but according the UK laws I must be invited then by someone who hase a FAC license and hase also a safe to put the weapon in etc.... Oh yeah, it is the seal from the transfergate that leaks.... The weapon is a few years old and has shooting several thousands of pellets and this is the first operation on it so it is still a very good weapon. A new seal from a few cents (for free) and the workinghours (also for free) and everybody is happy again.... ghghghghghgh :boogy: :boogy: :clapper: Let's drink a few and we don't speek anymore about it.... wouhaaa Indeed it's a vhzulkfzlmfczmzozù;oeaj,iekzammx situation that weare NOT allowed to hunt with. I do hunt with rimfire and shotguns overhere and frm time to time in the UK with airguns and or Poland etc.... :bye: :whistling: :D Quote Link to post
ArchieHood 3,692 Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 depends on the S200 Phantom, some, such variants, such as the T200 were only meant to be filled to 170 bar! Honsest, Mary had one, 170 bar fill only. So it depends on the model, if it fires best at 160, enjoy firing it at 160! The S200 is a S200 and the T200 is a T200.No ifs or buts. Quote Link to post
secretagentmole 1,701 Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 (edited) Archie the T200 is a variant of the S200 but for Target shooting, hence the T, It was originally 7,5 joule, and the easy way to identify it was the fact that it had a gauge on the front of the cylinder, rather than the quickfill adaptor. The cylinder had to be unscrewed to refill to 170bar (recommended fill pressure in manual). Other than that the mechanism was an S200 (2 piece stock, same mechanism, just restricted), Oh and it had an adjustable cheek piece.... An Air Arms T200 Edited September 27, 2011 by secretagentmole Quote Link to post
ArchieHood 3,692 Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 Archie the T200 is a variant of the S200 but for Target shooting, hence the T, It was originally 7,5 joule, and the easy way to identify it was the fact that it had a gauge on the front of the cylinder, rather than the quickfill adaptor. The cylinder had to be unscrewed to refill to 170bar (recommended fill pressure in manual). Other than that the mechanism was an S200 (2 piece stock, same mechanism, just restricted). Agreed,but it is still a T200 otherwise it would of been called a S200. Quote Link to post
bmwmotard 15 Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 Archie the T200 is a variant of the S200 but for Target shooting, hence the T, It was originally 7,5 joule, and the easy way to identify it was the fact that it had a gauge on the front of the cylinder, rather than the quickfill adaptor. The cylinder had to be unscrewed to refill to 170bar (recommended fill pressure in manual). Other than that the mechanism was an S200 (2 piece stock, same mechanism, just restricted). Agreed,but it is still a T200 otherwise it would of been called a S200. The "s" is standing for sporter (16 joule standard) and the "t" is for Target 7,5 joule.... The valve inside hase a other valvespring and a slightly other valveneedle and also the transfergate is smalle. Thzat's it... No more and no other changes on the arm. I have many regulary for maintenance overhere, it's a very good weapon for his price to. They are made by CZ BUT they where originaly made because US customers wants a cheap sporting and FT rifle for there kids.... That's the origin of the CZ and AA 200 series. The mechanism is 100 % identicly for both weapons and also for aswel the CZ and the AA. Quote Link to post
ArchieHood 3,692 Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 Archie the T200 is a variant of the S200 but for Target shooting, hence the T, It was originally 7,5 joule, and the easy way to identify it was the fact that it had a gauge on the front of the cylinder, rather than the quickfill adaptor. The cylinder had to be unscrewed to refill to 170bar (recommended fill pressure in manual). Other than that the mechanism was an S200 (2 piece stock, same mechanism, just restricted). Agreed,but it is still a T200 otherwise it would of been called a S200. The "s" is standing for sporter (16 joule standard) and the "t" is for Target 7,5 joule.... The valve inside hase a other valvespring and a slightly other valveneedle and also the transfergate is smalle. Thzat's it... No more and no other changes on the arm. I have many regulary for maintenance overhere, it's a very good weapon for his price to. They are made by CZ BUT they where originaly made because US customers wants a cheap sporting and FT rifle for there kids.... That's the origin of the CZ and AA 200 series. The mechanism is 100 % identicly for both weapons and also for aswel the CZ and the AA. My point is if I walked into a gunshop and asked to buy a S200,would I be sold a S200 or a T200 with an adjustable cheek piece?.....I think you know the answer. Quote Link to post
bmwmotard 15 Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 Archie the T200 is a variant of the S200 but for Target shooting, hence the T, It was originally 7,5 joule, and the easy way to identify it was the fact that it had a gauge on the front of the cylinder, rather than the quickfill adaptor. The cylinder had to be unscrewed to refill to 170bar (recommended fill pressure in manual). Other than that the mechanism was an S200 (2 piece stock, same mechanism, just restricted). Agreed,but it is still a T200 otherwise it would of been called a S200. The "s" is standing for sporter (16 joule standard) and the "t" is for Target 7,5 joule.... The valve inside hase a other valvespring and a slightly other valveneedle and also the transfergate is smalle. Thzat's it... No more and no other changes on the arm. I have many regulary for maintenance overhere, it's a very good weapon for his price to. They are made by CZ BUT they where originaly made because US customers wants a cheap sporting and FT rifle for there kids.... That's the origin of the CZ and AA 200 series. The mechanism is 100 % identicly for both weapons and also for aswel the CZ and the AA. My point is if I walked into a gunshop and asked to buy a S200,would I be sold a S200 or a T200 with an adjustable cheek piece?.....I think you know the answer. hehehehe Yes, It start with a S I think.... hehehehehehe Quote Link to post
bmwmotard 15 Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 Archie the T200 is a variant of the S200 but for Target shooting, hence the T, It was originally 7,5 joule, and the easy way to identify it was the fact that it had a gauge on the front of the cylinder, rather than the quickfill adaptor. The cylinder had to be unscrewed to refill to 170bar (recommended fill pressure in manual). Other than that the mechanism was an S200 (2 piece stock, same mechanism, just restricted), Oh and it had an adjustable cheek piece.... An Air Arms T200 With the NEW version (I have one overhere see my pic on the left) hase the S and the T version both a gauge on the top from the airtube... Quote Link to post
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