Fallow

[Royston2 0]

when fallow are concerned in my experiance size matters we may here of these little dogs doing odd ones but i cant see it fallow can be some beasts even hinds mine are no fallow dogs yet the brindle has taken one and been kicked of a good few like she was a terrier they are some quarry

[Guest wex]

Well said dale, i used the wheatonx for everything she wasn't bought with deer in mind. I got her for the fox job and expected her to make 23in. But as luck would have it she threw to the terrier, but she had an appetite for venison so i gave her the opportunities. I preferred a dog 25 to 27 for the lamp(fox,deer etc) before the ban. But i just keep Italian greyhoundxpatterdales for the bunnys, ive got one there and he pulls field mice singlehanded

[dobby 1]

the fallow near me must be extraordinary

 

the distance ive seen them run

 

the speed ive seen them run at

 

the hedges ive seen them jump

 

the fences ive seen um crash through

 

you people would let one little dog chase these

 

some of my mates (by the way these are not my main quarry little red fellas) have told me off chasing these over five/six big fields and using 3 dogs every time a dog tiers they put another out

 

im not saying little dogs cant take them but get real its got to be some exceptional little dog to take these

 

couple of one offs yeah

 

plus look at the strain youd be putting on a dog thats not built for the job by its self

 

all i can say is if there is doggin lads on here who hunt or have hunted fallow on here do you use one or two dogs (or more) and would pick a small dog to do it

 

happy hunting

 

dobby

[Phil Lloyd 10,738]

What about a fallow buck? Pre- ban has anybody seen a single dog take an adult buck?

 

Yes,..

[Guest Frank]

Yep,..them's definitly Fallows,...

 

[brock 11]

ive saw real stags taken single handed with a bull x,and saw many hinds and smaller stags taken with saluki x's single handed,never really had the oppertunity arise to try the saluki x's on the really big stags,i have a 28 1/2 inch 76 lb young saluki x at the moment which im pretty sure would have done them,its a shame i bred him after the ban came in tho

[subaruwilly 8]

If you read WEX 's post properly he says the 21'' wheaton x took fallow nothing about reds, he then said that he seen a 23'' whippet/grey take a red hind so the picture he put up is right as he says taken with the wheaton x. CHALKWARREN thats some picture did you take it yourself?

if you care to read it properly he said his dog took 3 hinds in case you didn`t know hinds are female red deer,does are female fallow

[Guest wex]

A fallow buck taken doubled up, back in 1994. Bitch in picture was 25in deerhound collie greyhound, other dog was a minshaw cross. cheers wex.

[subaruwilly 8]

IMO there is no rule to what size/shape/breed the dog should be , if the dog has the heart then i guess anything is possible , im not saying the smaller dog would do better than the larger but life as taught me that anything really is possible . i have a 28'' deerhound/greyhound , but does that mean it can pull deer better than a 23/24/25 '' dog , no i dont think so , the dog as to have the willingness to go up against something alot larger than itself , if it hasnt then there is no point . i dont think size ect matters . JMO though , my mates saluki bull grey is only 24'' and would beat my deerhound/greyhound hands down .

 

Dale

of course size matters thats a silly statement, i agree with you that the dog has to have bottle but it also needs to be physically fit/strong and heavy enough to be able to hold one of these beasts and i`m sure the people on here who run the larger species of deer regularly will agree with me on this and as for a 23" grew pulling a red hind single handed all i can say is the hind must have been sick or injured or just a calf as a fully grown fit red hind would think it had got an extra tick on its back, they really are some animal and i`ve seen experienced deer dogs what can flatten fallow bucks single handed regularly run doubled or even trebled up at reds and still got kicked to f**k resulting in the deer escaping

[elisderyn 496]

I personally know a bitch of about 23" that has run & eventually pulled a large male fallow..when I get 5 I'll post a pic...............IMO deer is all about technique..........a 26" lump of a bullx could grab a big buck by its arse & get dragged through feilds & then a slight 24" LURCHER run the same size quarry & nail it with a throat hold............Dont get me wrong a good big un is better than a good little un but like I said I think technique plays a very big part................

[Guest wex]

I personally know a bitch of about 23" that has run & eventually pulled a large male fallow..when I get 5 I'll post a pic...............IMO deer is all about technique..........a 26" lump of a bullx could grab a big buck by its arse & get dragged through feilds & then a slight 24" LURCHER run the same size quarry & nail it with a throat hold............Dont get me wrong a good big un is better than a good little un but like I said I think technique plays a very big part................

Never a truer word spoken, small dogs can do the job but obviously a decent bigun will be more equiped for the task in hand. cheers wex.

[subaruwilly 8]

I personally know a bitch of about 23" that has run & eventually pulled a large male fallow..when I get 5 I'll post a pic...............IMO deer is all about technique..........a 26" lump of a bullx could grab a big buck by its arse & get dragged through feilds & then a slight 24" LURCHER run the same size quarry & nail it with a throat hold............Dont get me wrong a good big un is better than a good little un but like I said I think technique plays a very big part................

could it do this regular ? 5,6,7 times a night or would you say it was a one off ?

[elisderyn 496]

The bitch I mentioned definatley has the minerals but she has'nt had enough Fallow to say for definate mate........Plenty of Roe but only a handful of fallow........I will admit though that fallow are a whole different ball game to roe............ .........I still think that good technique is the key though as a big clumsy dog can make hard work of things sometimes.........

Edited March 20, 2007 by elisderyn

[Guest Frank]

From all your experinces, which was the easiest to take, roe, fallow, red, muntjack, CWD, Sika?

With your avarage strong deer hunting Lurcher?

 

Cheers,

 

Frank.

[johnboyone 0]

ive pulled a fallow buck bit of a rare thing for me with my 27in sal/gray/bul and my mates col/gray theyed caught it in the bottem of a wood when i got there both dogs where locked on to its neck and it was stood up lifting the dogs font legs of the ground i broke the dogs off and let it go it wouldnt go down both taken roe single no problem